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They took my baby boy

Submitted by vasiliki1965 on Fri, 2010-12-10 22:55.

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My name is Vasiliki Dalianopoulos. I live in Evropos, Greece.

I went into the hospital on February 3, 1965 to deliver my baby. He was born on February 4 1965. He was a healthy baby boy. After two days I was told my baby boy had died. I wasn't allowed to see him at all and was told that his body was cremated. After a couple of years I was informed that there was a pattern of babies supposedly dieing and disappearing from this hospital but actually they were being kidnapped and being sold to people in USA for adaption who were probably not aware of what had transpired. Adoption Agency or Orphanage name at that time was Agios Stilianos.

I never believed what I had been told that my baby is death. I heard him crying when he was born and the nurse told me is a healthy baby boy.I never gave up and I will always look for him

Hospital today's name is Agia Sofia

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Dead Baby Scam, revisited

Submitted by Kerry on Sun, 2010-12-12 15:39.

Sadly, not very much is written about the worst of all acts done against mothers, in the name of adoption.   As far as I'm concerned, The Dead Baby Adoption Scam has to be the single worst form of baby-brokering and adoption fraud known to man.

The only information I myself found (and posted) relates to mothers/children in Canada.  You can find that post here: Maybe the media will make the mother of all adoption scams much bigger news.  You will note there is contact information from a Canadian news program.... while the announcement is old, (and who knows if the show was ever produced....), perhaps that producer mentioned has more information she can share with you.

Since I'm in America, when I was perusing the Internet, (googling Dead Baby Scam), I saw Cathy Henderson's name used and posted over and over again.  From what I understand, she gave birth in Canada and now lives in the UK.  According to Origins Canada, she was trying to initiate a class-action suit against  the CCAS in Toronto.  [Her email contact from that page is cathy@hendersonservices.co.uk  -- not sure if the addy still operates.]  Exiled Mothers.com also has a piece written by Cathy, it's posted as, Maternal Terrorism.  I don't know if either of those sites feature any cases or contact names for or from Greece.   

I know if it were me, the first name I'd look into is the name of the doctor/midwife who helped with the delivery.  If there was indeed a pattern of missing babies associated with that hospital, somewhere within the staff there would be a frequently named denominator.  Another name I'd hunt for?  The lawyer(s) associated with the adoption agency.... you can bet that side-job made a nice little profit... all kept quiet and confidential, of course.

As a side-note, quite a few people have posted on the thread titled, My Greek Adoption.   I'm wondering what sort of support groups/information networks are on the Internet for those with Greek origins and lost/stolen/adopted family members?  Are there many reliable trustworthy sites people can access?

twins

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 2011-04-30 16:51.

I work with a woman who was born and raised in Greece, and she was telling me how she was a twin, and even though her twin did not survive, she always felt as though her twin was still alive, living somewhere else, and was much more beautiful than she. At first I thought this was her way of fishing for compliments, but she is typically very quiet and keeps to herself. I was surprised she even offered this information about herself, but she has been in a very melancholy mood because her husband had to travel to Greece, alone, because there was a death in his family. After reading this, I'm beginning to think it's quite possible her parents were told the other baby died during delivery, when in fact it was fine and healthy, and sold through a baby-broker.

Identical Strangers and Special Private Interests

Submitted by Kerry on Sat, 2011-04-30 17:42.

More than one book has been written about this very topic. 

Elyse Schein had always known she was adopted, but it wasn’t until her mid-thirties while living in Paris that she searched for her biological mother. When Elyse contacted her adoption agency, she was not prepared for the shocking, life-changing news she received: She had an identical twin sister. Elyse was then hit with another bombshell: she and her sister had been separated as infants, and for a time, had been part of a secret study on separated twins.

[From: Identical Strangers ]

Another book, written by Lawrence Wright (1997), introduces this subject-matter from a whole different (more eerie) perspective.  Note the "humanitarian" angle used to justify the trick played on the lives of others, highlighted in my own bold edit.  [Note the role of the adoption agency in this professional pursuit, as well.]

A pair of identical twin girls were surrendered to an adoption agency in New York City in the late 1960s. The twins, who are known in psychological literature as Amy and Beth, might have gone through life in obscurity had they not come to the attention of Dr. Peter Neubauer, a prominent psychiatrist at New York University's Psychoanalytic Institute and a director of the Freud Archives. Neubauer believed at the time that twins posed such a burden to parents, and to themselves in the form of certain developmental hazards, that adopted twins were better off being raised separately, with no knowledge of their twinship.

Neubauer also recognized the exceptional research possibilities such a separation offered. Studies of twins reared apart are one of the most powerful tools that scholars have to analyze the relative contributions of heredity and environment to the makeup of individual human natures. Identical twins are rare, however, and twins who have been separated and brought up in different families are particularly unusual. Neubauer was aware of a mere handful of studies examining twins reared apart, and in most cases the twins being studied had been separated for only part of their childhoods and were reunited at some point long before the study began. Here was an opportunity to look at twins from the moment they were separated, and to trace them through childhood, observing at each stage of development the parallel or diverging courses of their lives. Because the sisters shared the same genetic makeup, one could evaluate the environmental effects on the twins' personalities, their behavior, their health, their intelligence. Such a study might not set to rest the ancient quarrel over the relative importance of nature versus nurture, but there were few other experiments one could imagine that would be more pertinent to an understanding of the human condition.

Neubauer sought out other instances in which newborn twins were being placed for adoption, eventually adding three other pairs of identical twins and a set of identical triplets to his project. The complete study has never been published, and Neubauer is reluctant to discuss the details of how he enlisted twins into the project. Indeed, much of the history of the study has been kept secret. In any case, by the time that Amy and Beth were sent to their adoptive homes, there was already an extensive team of psychologists, psychiatrists, pediatricians, observers, and testers waiting to follow them as they moved from infancy to adolescence. Every step of childhood would be documented through psychological and ability tests, school records, parental and sibling interviews, films, and the minutes of nearly 1,000 weekly conferences. Not surprisingly, the study was slanted toward psychoanalytical concerns. "In particular, we were looking for the psychological variables which influence developmental processes," says Neubauer. One would expect identical children placed in separate environments to be formed by different family dynamics. Broadly speaking, the personality differences between the girls as they grew older would measure the validity of the most fundamental assumption of clinical psychology, which is that experience--and, in particular, our family background--shapes us into the people we become.

The agency that placed the children shortly after their birth informed the potential adoptive parents that the girls were already involved in a study of child development, and the parents were strongly urged to continue it; however, neither the parents nor the girls themselves would ever be told that they were twins.

[From:  Twins And What They Tell Us About Who We Are, New York Times Books ]

Nice to know doctors and adoption agencies were doing such a huge favor for unsuspecting people, isn't it?  Meanwhile, the Dead Baby Scam makes me wonder if this type of "selective family planning" (mixed with fake death reports) increase the chances of a baby being sold through an illegal adoption plan AND alter infant mortality rates/statistics mentioned on a variety of pro-adoption websites.  After all, what jazzes adopters up more than knowing they are going to provide a long happy, healthy life for a child born in a country where infant mortality rates are really high?

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