Tina Anderson Rape Trial Nears

Tina Anderson first was contacted by the FBI and Concord New Hampshire Police Department in February 2010.

According to Tina, she was raped by a fellow member of her church when she was 15. Her alleged rapist, Ernie Willis was 38 at the time of her rape.

According to Tina, Tina Anderson was made by her Independent Fundamental Baptist pastor, Chuck Phelps to stand before the congregation and apologize for putting herself in a compromising situation which led to her rape.

Numererous members of Trinity Baptist Church who were present that night when Tina was made to stand before the church, Pastor Phelps did not tell the congregation that Tina was raped, nor did her pastor tell the congregation that the father of her baby was a 38 year old man Tina was sent another Independent Fundamental Baptist Church in Colorado.

According to Tina she was forced to give her baby up for adoption. She was given 3 profiles of prospective adoptive parents that her pastor Chuck Phelps had chosen. The church that Tina was sent to was where Pastor Phelps had previously been the youth pastor before moving to New Hampshire to become her "senior" pastor.

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ABC News 20/20 – “Shattered Faith” Air Date April 8, 2011 http://abcnews.go.com/2020/video/secret-pregnancy-forced-confession-13334563

More recent news reports as Ernie Willis’s trial nears for raping Tina. http://articles.boston.com/2011-05-05/news/29513523_1_sexual-assault-case-trial-approaches-prior-sexual-activity

 http://www.wmur.com/r/27775765/detail.html

 http://www.greenwichtime.com/news/article/NH-prosecutors-prepare-to-try-man-in-teen-s-rape-1365447.php

 As the trial nears, Tina's former pastor Chuck Phelps and her mother (who is still married to a sex-offender who molested Tina as a child) are doing their best to discredit her. http://www.drchuckphelps.com/index.html

 Below is just one of many blogs that attempt to give Tina's side of the story, witness statements, etc.

 http://chucklestravels.wordpress.com/about/

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Rape, adoption, and religious networks

I am often amazed by the Pollyanna-Mindset that seems to say over and over again, "Oh, MY (insert preferred church ring-leader's name), would never allow such a thing to happen in MY congregation!"

<sipping kool-aid....>  MMMhmmm.

I for one can see, quickly and easily, how the leader of a religious group/movement would want to sweep messy little sex-capades under the carpet, and then vilify the the victim a little more.  Hell, it's how some of these deranged power-hungry nut jobs work.  [Jim Bakker, anyone?]

Question(s), Kitty, since you seem to know so much about this case:

  1. Would Tina have wanted to give birth to this rapists child?  (Or would she have wanted an abortion, instead?)
  2. Do you think forcing an adoption implies they know who the father is, and others would know, too, just by looking at the child's features?
  3. Will the child ever be told the father was a rapist.... suggesting there is evil in that child, as well?  (Or will 'good respectable religious Aparents' wipe that stained sinned slate, clean?)

Answers to the best of my

Answers to the best of my knowlege, Tina's rapist did say he would either take her to another state where underage abortions were allowed without parental consent, or he would punch her in the stomach in the hopes of causing an abortion.
Most likely such a offer coming from her rapist was an attempt to cover up when he had done.
Tina, at this time, when she finally told her neighbor, she would have never thought of an abortion. That would never have been discussed as an option for her.

The second question, most likely.

The child has now been told about Tina. That she is a child of rape, that I don't know. Some fundamentalists teach that Adoptive children are guilty for the sins of their bio parents. Bill Gothard, is widely read and followed by many Baptist Fundamentalists, writes.“Causes of Conflicts — Adopted children are affected by the sins of their natural parents, and these sins are usually very severe.”

“Steps to Resolve Conflicts — If the child is too young to understand, pray for the child. Confess your sins and acknowledge the sins of the natural parents. Ask God to rebuke Satan and free the child from any unbelief or rebellion from the lives of the parents. Pray in the name and through the blood of the Lord Jesus Christ.”

Gothard recommends when the child is old enough to:

"Explain that just as physical weaknesses are passed down through parents, so are spiritual weaknesses such as pride, lust and rejection (see Exodus 20:5 and Ezekiel 18:20 ).” Gothard completely misquotes and completely misinterprets Exodus 20:6 but especially Ezekiel 18:20, which says, "The soul who sins is the one who will die. The son will not share the guilt of the father, nor will the father share the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous man will be credited to him, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against him." In my view, this verse makes it pretty clear that no one shares guilt with another person. This man Bill Gothard is now in his 70's I believe. Lived with his mother until she died. Never married. Never had any children. Yet, there are a whole community of Christians that take Gothards teaching about marriage, child training, child development, sex, adoption, ect. as if the teachings came from God Almighty. Not all fundamentalist follow Gothard. I don't know if the aparents do or not. Whether the child's aparents follow Gothard or not, if they are still Independent Baptist Fundamentalists, they are patriarchal. In the extreme. Kitty

Hope that helps some. :)

Inheriting the sins of the mother and father

In my RCC, I was taught a similar lesson, only I don't recall having to memorize chapter and verse spewed upon me.  I DO recall the way in which both my grandmothers would look at me.  [I guess they were waiting for me to prove I was in fact the demon-seed  --or perhaps they were simply waiting for confirmation; who knows, they're both dead now.]

I have heard/read horror stories of adoptees being abused punished for cleansed of the sins of their parents.  These "scrubbings", I believe, typically come from those who don't know the first thing about normal child development and the long-term lessons love and patience can teach.  Nevertheless, people who favor corporal punishment are often honored as demigods. (Fear-factor sells big-time to dependent mindless sheeple.)

 The righteousness of the righteous man will be credited to him, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against him." In my view, this verse makes it pretty clear that no one shares guilt with another person. This man Bill Gothard is now in his 70's I believe. Lived with his mother until she died. Never married. Never had any children. Yet, there are a whole community of Christians that take Gothards teaching about marriage, child training, child development, sex, adoption, ect. as if the teachings came from God Almighty.

Reads like a typical RCC priest.... although in my church, those men of the cloth typically lived among their own kind (other priests), not their mothers.

I have found, once I became a parent myself, there are some "traditions" I did not want to repeat, simply because in my mind, they bring out the bad and ugly in people.  For instance, belittling, mocking, scaring the shit out of a child -- forcing the child to kiss/love another, even though the child resists for reasons unknown to the parent... (there's always a reason).  These force-filled conditions and behaviors maintained by the "traditional" parent should be changed/modified, for the sake of the child and family dynamic.  These acts and forced treatments used by a bully authority figure against a child do harm and mold the child's ability to love and trust those in authority.

Here's the strange thing I never understood.... in church I recall being told something about "free-will". We are all free to choose.  If I am free to choose, what moron-part of me will chose to stay with and among a bunch of violent prone psychos?  It's taken me decades to choose correctly,in terms of some key relationships.  However, it was very easy to choose "the right thing" when I became pregnant.  I chose NOT to do as both sets of my parents did to me.  I chose not to relinquish custody of the children God has Gifted me, and I chose not to treat them like my Aparents treated me.  Sure I make my mistakes with them... I am human, but all in all, I want my children to believe an ultimate [good] authority is one that can be loved, admired, honored and respected, not feared. [After all, I know If I find myself fearing the person ruling/dictating orders to me, I find myself neither liking nor respecting that person, which in turn forces me to plot my escape.]  Last thing I want is my kids doing to me as I did to my Amother -- find a way to escape and walk-away, for good.

Thanks for the explanation, Kitty -- I hope I got the gist of the lesson you were trying the share about "fundamental" beliefs re: sin.  I'm not all that familiar with the specific teachings of various denominations, but after a while, the basic teachings all begin to read somewhat the same. 

You know, as cliché as this may read, I would not be surprised to learn if Gothard was abused, (and has serious unresolved parent-God issues) too.

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