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Tue, December 1, 2009 8:11:01 PM[ No Subject ]
From: faith baden <fthndkvn@yahoo.com> View Contact
To: ileesa33@yahoo.com

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Hi there. We just picked up Emily from Siebert. The boys were not with Jessica today. She is no greiving mother that is for sure. She was yapping as always. I heard they moved to Mooreland street in Midland. That would mean she should move the girls to cook school but of course she would not do that. I wish she would. I had my phone on Video all ready to record them. I pick Emily up everyday so I will always try.
Well when Jessica came to our school she came in our class and just took over. The teacher could not even control her. She grabbed a little boy) by the arm and drug him into the hall and yelled at him. Then she made another boy cry and that was the wrong kid to upset. His mom is a principal at Jefferson. She would tell me my daughter needed to do this and that to improve her reading. The teacher did not tell me this Jessica did. She would do this to all of us. As if she was the teacher. She took over. She would stay in the class all day. She got into it with the librarian and would call her names to the kids. When a group of us got togeather and decided we could not handel seeing how mean she was to the boys and we did not want to hear her stories anymore We started not talking to her and I happened to be the brave one that told her she had issues and I did not want her around me or my child. Well she just feed off that. If I was talking to someone she would step in and interupt, she loves to be in peoples face. We met with the principal and he agreed to try and put a stop to her but there is only so much he can do. Last year when my older daughters would pick up Emily Jessica would always harass them so after school I stopped her and a matter of fact Justin was with her and I told her This was a warning and there would not be another but she better stay away from my kids. She mouthed something and walked off. We told Mr. V if our daughter was not put in another class and if we have one problem with her we will move our daughter and we will make sure the school board know why. My good friend that works at Jefferson said they had nothing but trouble with her. She is Evil. She stopped her husband from being close with his family. Joshes dad used to write paul in jail and she told him if he did not stop he would never hear from them. Trust me I am not her only enemy. Her sister in law Hates her. She is one of the most disliked people I know. I am going to a baseball game tonight but I will Keep in touch.
Blessings
Again sorry I rammble. I just hate her and what she does to people.

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From:Justin Mcbride
Date:9 Sep 2009 11:04 Am

I do not know an address. I have never heard the boys say anything. But it is her who has told us about making Steven sleep on the porch and there was something with Kody and he spilled blue stuff all over the floor and he was digging at the drywall and I cant remember what she said they did but she was so mean to him. I know he was kept in his room alot. She told us she did not want Kody but had to take him to get the others. I am surprised Steven did not tell them she was abusive to them. I do not know what happened that morn. If I hear I will let you know. Why isnt she being investigated

You need to send her lists of names of people she needs to contact. Anyone that contacts you and anyone they know. How about putting an add in the paper for a group of supporters to meet and share info and if it is considered a concern then we all agree to report it. People need to get brave and stop fearing
this lady.

I will get you a list of people I know. I do not know if they will contact you or not, but I do know if they were asked questions they would not lie. I will not be at Siebert after school tomm. We house a Great Lakes Loon baseball player and we are going to Grand Rapids to see them play. You stay strong. Nothing ever breaks a mothers bond.

In second grade Jessica came to siebert and Jefferson like a tornado. She caused so much trouble in such a short time. I have four girls Two went to Dow High with Justin and one went to Jefferson with Steven and Kevin and Triston. And my youngest goes to Siebert with May and Katrina. My daughter Elizabeth was Kevins first Girlfriend. It was kinda cute. they were both new to Jefferson that year. Kody I only saw when we invited them over after the ballon fest that year. The vice principal of the school and I started getting very strange feelings about Jessica and when we distanced ourself she got nasty. Parents pet and called our principal asking him to keep her under control or get her out of our school. I do not talk to anyone that has not heard just trash out of her mouth. It is not just because she was so nasty to me and still is. It is because right is right and wrong is wrong and she is not right for those boys.I am telling you she is mean. I will always keep you posted. Kevin looked like he had a mark on his face. They stood so still and quiet. as she always expects them to while she stands flapping her mouth. I will tell you one thing I remember a female prosecutor that hated Jessica during the case with the girls. I remember this lady telling her she needed to get help. She is not a liked lady. I heard they had moved to Mooreland Street here in Midland. Sorry to get so worked up but Siebert is our school we are like family to teachers there and were very involved and now hate to walk in and considered going to another school because of her. I am sorry She has hurt my family. and devistated yours. Your boys are so nice. A wink from me to them will always done with love from you through me.

and please let steven know we have nothing against him because we feel in our heart he didnt do it ,and my son paul tild me that she was molesting justin before she had him put away over her daughter .he walked in on it several time and she would rush justin out of her room once she noiced paul standing there and told justin to get out of her room .he said he knows alot of stuff that has happen in that house against kody ,himself ,justin ,and kevin .he would take a lie detector test well he testifisty against her joshua and steve the adopted dad . begin_of_the_skype_highlighting end_of_the_skype_highlighting

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i guess i dont know, its hard to believe that josh did it, hes was raised a christian, i dont know jessica but from reading all the stuff that you just sent me, she must be a really evil person. i wonder why the schools dont report her….i am so praying that you will get the proof you need or someone to back you up….

wow, thats all i can say…..wow…. jessica sure has alot of enemys… cant these people who are writing this all to you. go to the courts and confirm what shes really like? i know joshes dad would be devestated if he knew all this was going on… i heard that they didnt want him to marry her….the sister in law…is that josh’s sister this lady is talking about…wow, theres got to be something you can do some how

probably not, i usually only see the saylor family at the reunions…but ill ask my mother in law how they are doing, and hey did you check out the midland memorial gardens or the midland cemetary to see if justin was buried in any of those places

i havent heard anything, but im leaveing to go to mich. on wed. so i will be seeing my in laws. if i hear anything i will let you know

i dont know any of the kids or jessica, i only met josh once even though he is my husbands cousin…i know when i was reading the comments in the papers, there were alot of people commenting on helping you….there was a lot of slamming going on from all sides, and im sorry that you had to deal with all that in this time of your life.. i will try and see what my mother in law has to say tomorrow, i know that the family is being silent about the whole situation…..

it’s just so strange how someone that young can overpower 4 people and do that much harm and noone is talking about it…it makes you wonder, who was doing what to who…but someone needs to be punished for the crimes that took place in that home, i know it won’t bring justin back, but once you know what really took place you can atleast rest your mind…my mother in law keeps telling me that no one wants to talk about it….but someone has to know the truth somewhere….funny how the papers have so much to say , but dont share the after stories….have u thought about calling waresmith funeral home and asking where he was burried

the saylor side of our family is buried on at that cementary on coleman road right in coleman, i havent talked with anyone yet as im getting ready to fly to mich in sept.. if i get anymore info i will let you know, so sorry that you are going through all this… i do know they bought a new house but i dont know where, i would assume it would be in coleman also or midland…

what? i havent heard anything except the one boy is still having a hard time recovering, wow well if steven didnt do it then who did? thats pretty crazy, what did the other boys say

i am a relative of josh saylor, my husband is josh’s cousin, i do not know jessica or the children involved here so i cannot comment on them, i just personally want to say to you and all family and extended family that i am very sorry for your loss in all situations here, losing your children to the state and the death of your son justin. the system is not a good place…. my prayers and thoughts go out to you, as a mother i can understand the pain you must be feeling right now and i am so sorry for that, weather you were wrong or right in this situation it still doesnt take away the fact that you carried and gave birth, and loved those children involved, and nor can anyone or anything take that for your heart…. i pray that Gods grace, mercy, love, comfort and peace be with each and every one of you. i pray that God will give you the strength to carry out each and everyday from now until the end of time…that he will give you understanding and wisdom and the faith to know you will be reunited one day. i will continue to pray for you and your family…as far as an update on the ones recovering the only information i have as of now is that one child was released from the hospital, one is still in the hospital, either in midland or mt.pleasent, along with josh who is in sag. they have been upgraded to fair condition and have a long process of recovery due to their injuries….thank you for accepting me as a friend, justin is a very good looking boy and i am so sorry that his life was cut short because of someones foolishness…from one mothers heart to anothers..may Gods peace be with you all

Hello Faith,
If you have any questions at one point I was close to Jessica when she was married to Steve up to when she married Josh. She discuts me to the extreme! What she does to those children is not right and what she spreads about there lives and past is not fair to them. I have heard so much about you and there father that I believe to be untrue. I would like to keep in touch with you and exchange any info of the status of the children and steven. I hope to hear from you.
Hi faith my husband is in the army and we have been doing paperwork all day I’m
currently located in Louisiana however I will call you or email with more as
soon as I’m home. I’m sorry about the wait I know how stressful and eager you
must be! I hope to help your children be removed from that home and if steven
needs any supplies or anything I would be happy to donateFaith,
I’m at work but will try to send as mug as possible now. I’m sorry I though
Steven was yours, I do believe he was set up or pushed over the edge as well! I
have known Jessica since 2005, Paul used to date my sister Lauren. He was a
wonderful boy and I don’t believe for a second that he did what Jessica accused
him off. If he needs anything I would love to help him as well! I believe the
money was going to be up so she tried to do what she could to get rid of him,
she is always flashing the checks around that she gets from them, Jessica was
friends with my parents when she was with Steve then she tried being my friend
however I could never stand her, by the way I’m 23 I don’t want you to think I’m
some teenager. I have learned about jessicas punishments from her mouth

I have to go now I’m sorry and promise more tonight

Sent from my iPhone Hi faith this is Ashley and I wanted to let you know that this is my new email
address. She thinks that people telling the truth about stories she runs around
and tells about herself is slander? So when she tells about the punishments and
such is she slandering herself? She is so sad!

What website did she post this on? Right she’s full if crap and can
sugar coat anything to make her the victim or the angel when she is
the opposite! And yes that woul mean Paul was 28 now ? She’s an idiot.
It seems public that the boys dong want to be there and that she is
psycho

Hello Ashley this is Faith the kid’s bio-mother. i have added you to yahoo
messenger so we dont have to talk through e- mail we can chat on yahoo
messenger. I am sure glad you contacted us, we need all the help and support we
can get. Jessica is trying to get a p.p.o. on us and several other people as
well. We are going to be in court on the 30th of this month in Midland at 10:30
am. I hope to here from you soon. We would really like to know what this woman
has put our kids through. Thank You , Faith & Kevin Baden

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Fri, September 11, 2009 9:15:49 PMFrom: faith baden View Contact
To: djduke0817@sbcglobel.net

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i am a relative of josh saylor, my husband is josh's cousin, i do not know jessica or the children involved here so i cannot comment on them, i just personally want to say to you and all family and extended family that i am very sorry for your loss in all situations here, losing your children to the state and the death of your son justin. the system is not a good place.... my prayers and thoughts go out to you, as a mother i can understand the pain you must be feeling right now and i am so sorry for that, weather you were wrong or right in this situation it still doesnt take away the fact that you carried and gave birth, and loved those children involved, and nor can anyone or anything take that for your heart.... i pray that Gods grace, mercy, love, comfort and peace be with each and every one of you. i pray that God will give you the strength to carry out each and everyday from now until the end of time...that he will give you understanding and wisdom
and the faith to know you will be reunited one day. i will continue to pray for you and your family...as far as an update on the ones recovering the only information i have as of now is that one child was released from the hospital, one is still in the hospital, either in midland or mt.pleasent, along with josh who is in sag. they have been upgraded to fair condition and have a long process of recovery due to their injuries....thank you for accepting me as a friend, justin is a very good looking boy and i am so sorry that his life was cut short because of someones foolishness...from one mothers heart to anothers..may Gods peace be with you all ..

i just now recieved an up date that josh and the other son will be released in the next few days....please dont place my pic. on the top friends list, thank you :)

what? i havent heard anything except the one boy is still having a hard time recovering, wow well if steven didnt do it then who did? thats pretty crazy, what did the other boys say

i dont know any of the kids or jessica, i only met josh once even though he is my husbands cousin...i know when i was reading the comments in the papers, there were alot of people commenting on helping you....there was a lot of slamming going on from all sides, and im sorry that you had to deal with all that in this time of your life.. i will try and see what my mother in law has to say tomorrow, i know that the family is being silent about the whole situation.....

i havent talked to my mother in law this week but i may give her a call tomorrow and ask how they all are....and i will let you know,
it's just so strange how someone that young can overpower 4 people and do that much harm and noone is talking about it...it makes you wonder, who was doing what to who...but someone needs to be punished for the crimes that took place in that home, i know it won't bring justin back, but once you know what really took place you can atleast rest your mind...my mother in law keeps telling me that no one wants to talk about it....but someone has to know the truth somewhere....funny how the papers have so much to say , but dont share the after stories....have u thought about calling waresmith funeral home and asking where he was burried?

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Fri, September 11, 2009 9:03:48 PMFrom: faith baden View Contact
To: djduke0817@sbcglobel.net

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And i dont think they feed them well cuz they always come too school and eat a lot breakfast and when they came to lunch they would fill their tray with food. Mainly with the side food. Which is free. And speaking of school kevin and kody and steven would come to school with the same cloths on for like two days. And also when steven suposibly did this my friend was riding his bike by there and the mom was not crying or any thing just standing there!
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Ya she didnt let them go anuwhere only to school and with them. They didnt get to watch tv ever and they only read books and studed for school and stuff. They never had funny except at school.

no i just heard from the news and everyone that they dont think steven did it and i seen a teacher the day it happen and she told my mom she didnt believe it either and she didnt believe your other son did it either and they try to help him too but the monster came after them and the school

i know steven is said to have done it but I truly believe there is more to it than that like way was only the stepdad wake at first and not the mom. and she woke up to the stepdad yelling and he was in the basement . there is something not right . i felt bad last year a christmas time too for all the
the boys.

i just told her a she said really ..then said she wonders where the money her and her friends dropped off went. my mom wonder if you know where they laid him to rest

let your mom know that the marines paid for justin furenal not jessica and joshua

me to i don't think he did it because Steven never talked about killing or stuff like that he always said that killing and stuff was weird. But ya i don't believe it

my mom said she believes you guys were a example by the state of michigan how they throw there powers around like they did to my aunt. and you guys are good parents but they wanted to show everyone who had the upper hand . like a power trip. and hopes you get a lawyer and go back on the state of michigan and the person that took them and gave them to the people that has them now.
me to i don't think he did it because Steven never talked about killing or stuff like that he always said that killing and stuff was weird. But ya i don't believe it.

I hope they take the kids away from them. Mom gave the funeral home money. She posted that one about you being able to go to the funeral. But she doesnt want any trouble so please dont tell

ya steven had lots of bruises on his back when we play shirts and skin in gym class

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Fri, September 11, 2009 8:39:33 PMFrom: faith baden View Contact
To: djduke0817@sbcglobel.net

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I saw Kevin and Kody today standing in the hall of Siebert. They looked well but stood silent like little soldiers. I gave them a wink and will everytime I see them and it is done for you. That woman pranced herself down the hall with Josh two feet behind her like she thinks everyone should. She personally almost drove my family out of our school. She is a sick lady and honestly I hope for the kids sake she gets help. Our prayers are with you. Know those boys love you everyday.
brooke Sanmiguel sent this .
I will. The boys were not there in the morning. but they were in the afternoon. She was all over the place but they stood still right at the office. Elizabeth said she did not see the boys at Dow High. You should have seen the looks she got today. I am sure the boys felt stared at. She is so sick and attention hungry I am sure she does not care. If you have an attorney and if he needs names of people that have heard her talk negative about the boys and wishing she had not adopted them let me know. Anyone that had to stand in a classroom or on the soccer field while her daughter mason played heard never ending stories. Good Luck and God Bless. I will keep in touch.

Hi there. We just picked up Emily from Siebert. The boys were not with Jessica today. She is no greiving mother that is for sure. She was yapping as always. I heard they moved to Mooreland street in Midland. That would mean she should move the girls to cook school but of course she would not do that. I wish she would. I had my phone on Video all ready to record them. I pick Emily up everyday so I will always try.
Well when Jessica came to our school she came in our class and just took over. The teacher could not even control her. She grabbed a little boy (Mathew Pawley) by the arm and drug him into the hall and yelled at him. Then she made another boy cry and that was the wrong kid to upset. His mom is a principal at Jefferson. She would tell me my daughter needed to do this and that to improve her reading. The teacher did not tell me this Jessica did. She would do this to all of us. As if she was the teacher. She took over. She would stay in the class all day. She got into it with the librarian and would call her names to the kids. When a group of us got togeather and decided we could not handel seeing how mean she was to the boys and we did not want to hear her stories anymore We started not talking to her and I happened to be the brave one that told her she had issues and I did not want her around me or my child. Well she just feed off that. If I was talking
to someone she would step in and interupt, she loves to be in peoples face. We met with the principal and he agreed to try and put a stop to her but there is only so much he can do. Last year when my older daughters would pick up Emily Jessica would always harass them so after school I stopped her and a matter of fact Justin was with her and I told her This was a warning and there would not be another but she better stay away from my kids. She mouthed something and walked off. We told Mr. V if our daughter was not put in another class and if we have one problem with her we will move our daughter and we will make sure the school board know why. My good friend that works at Jefferson said they had nothing but trouble with her. She is Evil. She stopped her husband from being close with his family. Joshes dad used to write paul in jail and she told him if he did not stop he would never hear from them. Trust me I am not her only enemy. Her sister in law
Hates her. She is one of the most disliked people I know. I am going to a baseball game tonight but I will Keep in touch.
Blessings
Again sorry I rammble. I just hate her and what she does to people.

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From:Justin Mcbride
Date:9 Sep 2009 11:04 Am

I do not know an address. I have never heard the boys say anything. But it is her who has told us about making Steven sleep on the porch and there was something with Kody and he spilled blue stuff all over the floor and he was digging at the drywall and I cant remember what she said they did but she was so mean to him. I know he was kept in his room alot. She told us she did not want Kody but had to take him to get the others. I am surprised Steven did not tell them she was abusive to them. I do not know what happened that morn. If I hear I will let you know. Why isnt she being investigated

You need to send her lists of names of people she needs to contact. Anyone that contacts you and anyone they know. How about putting an add in the paper for a group of supporters to meet and share info and if it is considered a concern then we all agree to report it. People need to get brave and stop fearing
this lady.

I will get you a list of people I know. I do not know if they will contact you or not, but I do know if they were asked questions they would not lie. I will not be at Siebert after school tomm. We house a Great Lakes Loon baseball player and we are going to Grand Rapids to see them play. You stay strong. Nothing ever breaks a mothers bond.

In second grade Jessica came to siebert and Jefferson like a tornado. She caused so much trouble in such a short time. I have four girls Two went to Dow High with Justin and one went to Jefferson with Steven and Kevin and Triston. And my youngest goes to Siebert with May and Katrina. My daughter Elizabeth was Kevins first Girlfriend. It was kinda cute. they were both new to Jefferson that year. Kody I only saw when we invited them over after the ballon fest that year. The vice principal of the school and I started getting very strange feelings about Jessica and when we distanced ourself she got nasty. Parents pet and called our principal asking him to keep her under control or get her out of our school. I do not talk to anyone that has not heard just trash out of her mouth. It is not just because she was so nasty to me and still is. It is because right is right and wrong is wrong and she is not right for those boys.I am telling you she is mean. I will
always keep you posted. Kevin looked like he had a mark on his face. They stood so still and quiet. as she always expects them to while she stands flapping her mouth. I will tell you one thing I remember a female prosecutor that hated Jessica during the case with the girls. I remember this lady telling her she needed to get help. She is not a liked lady. I heard they had moved to Mooreland Street here in Midland. Sorry to get so worked up but Siebert is our school we are like family to teachers there and were very involved and now hate to walk in and considered going to another school because of her. I am sorry She has hurt my family. and devistated yours. Your boys are so nice. A wink from me to them will always done with love from you through me.

and please let steven know we have nothing against him because we feel in our heart he didnt do it ,and my son paul tild me that she was molesting justin before she had him put away over her daughter .he walked in on it several time and she would rush justin out of her room once she noiced paul standing there and told justin to get out of her room .he said he knows alot of stuff that has happen in that house against kody ,himself ,justin ,and kevin .he would take a lie detector test well he testifisty against her joshua and steve the adopted dad.
Mon, September 14, 2009 2:09:40 PMFrom: faith baden View Contact
To: djduke0817@sbcglobeal.net

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i guess i dont know, its hard to believe that josh did it, hes was raised a christian, i dont know jessica but from reading all the stuff that you just sent me, she must be a really evil person. i wonder why the schools dont report her....i am so praying that you will get the proof you need or someone to back you up....

wow, thats all i can say.....wow.... jessica sure has alot of enemys... cant these people who are writing this all to you. go to the courts and confirm what shes really like? i know joshes dad would be devestated if he knew all this was going on... i heard that they didnt want him to marry her....the sister in law...is that josh's sister this lady is talking about...wow, theres got to be something you can do some how

probably not, i usually only see the saylor family at the reunions...but ill ask my mother in law how they are doing, and hey did you check out the midland memorial gardens or the midland cemetary to see if justin was buried in any of those places

i havent heard anything, but im leaveing to go to mich. on wed. so i will be seeing my in laws. if i hear anything i will let you know :)

it's just so strange how someone that young can overpower 4 people and do that much harm and noone is talking about it...it makes you wonder, who was doing what to who...but someone needs to be punished for the crimes that took place in that home, i know it won't bring justin back, but once you know what really took place you can atleast rest your mind...my mother in law keeps telling me that no one wants to talk about it....but someone has to know the truth somewhere....funny how the papers have so much to say , but dont share the after stories....have u thought about calling waresmith funeral home and asking where he was burried

the saylor side of our family is buried on at that cementary on coleman road right in coleman, i havent talked with anyone yet as im getting ready to fly to mich in sept.. if i get anymore info i will let you know, so sorry that you are going through all this... i do know they bought a new house but i dont know where, i would assume it would be in coleman also or midland...

what? i havent heard anything except the one boy is still having a hard time recovering, wow well if steven didnt do it then who did? thats pretty crazy, what did the other boys say

i talked with my mother in law today and she shared with me that the funeral was beautiful, she said his brothers wrote him a letter and read it to him. also she said that the 15 yr old was having trouble getting up, down and around... he has been released from the hospital but will have a long process of recovery due to being stabbed in the liver and kidneys and other places, the 13 1/2 year old had fingers cut off. josh is doing good he was released also...are the other two your boys also? i asked her what happened and she said the family isnt talking about it to anyone so shes not sure what took place...who does steven belong to if not you...? they will not be living in their home enfact they have not been back there, some of our relatives went in and moved every thing out.... hope this helps you a little, please feel free to email me at anytime. again i am soooooooooo sorry i've looked at justins page a few times today.. ur in my prayers

i am a relative of josh saylor, my husband is josh's cousin, i do not know jessica or the children involved here so i cannot comment on them, i just personally want to say to you and all family and extended family that i am very sorry for your loss in all situations here, losing your children to the state and the death of your son justin. the system is not a good place.... my prayers and thoughts go out to you, as a mother i can understand the pain you must be feeling right now and i am so sorry for that, weather you were wrong or right in this situation it still doesnt take away the fact that you carried and gave birth, and loved those children involved, and nor can anyone or anything take that for your heart.... i pray that Gods grace, mercy, love, comfort and peace be with each and every one of you. i pray that God will give you the strength to carry out each and everyday from now until the end of time...that he will give you understanding and wisdom
and the faith to know you will be reunited one day. i will continue to pray for you and your family...as far as an update on the ones recovering the only information i have as of now is that one child was released from the hospital, one is still in the hospital, either in midland or mt.pleasent, along with josh who is in sag. they have been upgraded to fair condition and have a long process of recovery due to their injuries....thank you for accepting me as a friend, justin is a very good looking boy and i am so sorry that his life was cut short because of someones foolishness...from one mothers heart to anothers..may Gods peace be with you all :)

Hello Faith,
If you have any questions at one point I was close to Jessica when she was married to Steve up to when she married Josh. She discuts me to the extreme! What she does to those children is not right and what she spreads about there lives and past is not fair to them. I have heard so much about you and there father that I believe to be untrue. I would like to keep in touch with you and exchange any info of the status of the children and steven. I hope to hear from you.
Hi faith my husband is in the army and we have been doing paperwork all day I'm
currently located in Louisiana however I will call you or email with more as
soon as I'm home. I'm sorry about the wait I know how stressful and eager you
must be! I hope to help your children be removed from that home and if steven
needs any supplies or anything I would be happy to donateFaith,
I'm at work but will try to send as mug as possible now. I'm sorry I though
Steven was yours, I do believe he was set up or pushed over the edge as well! I
have known Jessica since 2005, Paul used to date my sister Lauren. He was a
wonderful boy and I don't believe for a second that he did what Jessica accused
him off. If he needs anything I would love to help him as well! I believe the
money was going to be up so she tried to do what she could to get rid of him,
she is always flashing the checks around that she gets from them, Jessica was
friends with my parents when she was with Steve then she tried being my friend
however I could never stand her, by the way I'm 23 I don't want you to think I'm
some teenager. I have learned about jessicas punishments from her mouth

I have to go now I'm sorry and promise more tonight

Sent from my iPhone Hi faith this is Ashley and I wanted to let you know that this is my new email
address. She thinks that people telling the truth about stories she runs around
and tells about herself is slander? So when she tells about the punishments and
such is she slandering herself? She is so sad!

What website did she post this on? Right she's full if crap and can
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It seems public that the boys dong want to be there and that she is
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i can send you on hereemails of what friends of steven and myboys told me about this women.

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can you help me in michigan to win my case .my son kevin has really deep cuts on hs face .he had his scars from the knife on hisneck and was stabbed in the liver and kidneys as well hes lucky his alive and my youngiest kody had stabbing wounds as well as i was told he had some of his fingers cut off.my son that is dead had his throat slit and was morally stabbed all over his body .and the adopted mother wouldnt even let me go to the furenal and she cremated him so he wasnt buried and the marines paid for him to be buried from what i understand .she even asked for donations for his burial as well.

can you help me in michigan to win my case .my son kevin has really deep cuts on hs face .he had his scars from the knife on hisneck and was stabbed in the liver and kidneys as well hes lucky his alive and my youngiest kody had stabbing wounds as well as i was told he had some of his fingers cut off.my son that is dead had his throat slit and was morally stabbed all over his body .and the adopted mother wouldnt even let me go to the furenal and she cremated him so he wasnt buried and the marines paid for him to be buried from what i understand .she even asked for donations for his burial as well.
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SunnyDaze wrote on Aug 12, 2009 9:52 AM:

” What happened to all of the posts? Maybe it got a little too hot to handle? hahaha ”

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WTH wrote on Aug 12, 2009 10:35 AM:

” wth ? where r all the posts? ”

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Keep Posting Help The Remaining Children In That Home wrote on Aug 12, 2009 6:44 PM:

” WE THE PEOPLE….must keep following and follow up on this story.

It’s now the communities job to protect these childre wrote on Aug 12, 2009 6:58 PM:

” ” In Jessica`s hands…
a child murdered
2 molested
1 in prison
1 in jail for murder
3 others stabbed

what else went on in the past or behind closed doors? You KNOW there were things-just to lead up to this.
I do not see what she thinks the dif. is from the Bio parents?
The state and WE THE PEOPLE put our trust in her. Look what has happened!
I do not know the boys involved, or any of the parents, But I AM DISGUSTED at the FACTS here!
There has been ALOT said-one sticks in my mind: One woman said she was also a foster mom, had a little girl in her care, said the girl talked about “THE UNDERWEAR EXCHANGE PROGRAM” -she just knew it had to have been Jessica`s house she got that from.
I am very proud of all the protesters that did that yesterday! Good for you!
I also have friends that are police officers, so what-I`m sure they won`t look at Jessica the same after this has happened.
People have said alot-but these are the facts that WE KNOW happened in her care. The results are not looking very good for Jessica! ”

I copied all posts:
I don`t remember who wrote it in there-but look back through if you copied them and you`ll read hers! I was shocked. ”

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Posts wrote on Aug 12, 2009 7:33 PM:

” IUnknown wrote on Aug 4, 2009 2:55 PM:

” This is horrible I live right down the road and it’s hard to believe this could happen in Coleman. ”
Jason B. wrote on Aug 4, 2009 4:19 PM:

” Maybe the prosecuting attorney can research the law a little faster given this threat to our community. ” ”

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Posts wrote on Aug 12, 2009 7:33 PM:

” maggie wrote on Aug 4, 2009 4:21 PM:

” This is sure to happen when you have multiple people living in the same house that have a “troubled” past- Tempers flare up, things occur. This is a good reason why there should be a limit to how many “kids” can live in a foster care home.

I sure hope the STATE looks at this for a long time and thinks about making changes to the system. NOW are the boys parents (who was killed) going to receive some type of grievance pay because the STATE didn’t protect their child?????? PROBABLY NOT- WASN”T THE STATE’S FAULT- Another fostercare story gone bad. ”

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Posts wrote on Aug 12, 2009 7:34 PM:

” EG wrote on Aug 4, 2009 4:42 PM:

” Jason B.: Don’t you think it’s a good idea that he research everything, prior to filing charges? I wouldn’t want him to just throw whatever charges he thinks of at everyone, and not have them stick. That happens enough already. The kid is either in the hospital under police supervision, or in a cell by now anyway. Researching hurt nothing. Nice try at being a smart a$$. ” ”

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Posts wrote on Aug 12, 2009 7:41 PM:

” jim wrote on Aug 4, 2009 11:57 PM:

” This is not the only foster care home in Coleman that the children were treated badly. There is another one that kicks kids out right before their 18th birthday because the checks will no longer be coming. This woman(MARY PAT) liked to place these children in these homes fast. she didnt care what went on in the home. just as long as she got them placed fast. I blame midland county for this and the foster care system. SHAME ON YOU FOR ALLOWING THIS TO HAPPEN TO THESE KIDS. I’M GLAD THE MOTHER GOT THE STATE TO PAY FOR HER NAILS .INSTEAD OF GETTING HIM THE HELP HE NEEDED. ” ”

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Copy wrote on Aug 12, 2009 7:53 PM:

” I have all the posts thru Aug 10

anyone know why we can’t post on todays article about the kids picketing the court house? ”

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About Jessica wrote on Aug 12, 2009 8:03 PM:

” Jessica posted a couple things the other day about how she was being bashed for making her kids work.

I for one do not find fault with her for making the kids work. I don’t even find a lot of fault with her keeping the money. IF she doled it out to them. A lot of parents don’t feel the kids should have a lot of money in their pocket.

I’m just pointing out the difference in parenting.

Now. Would Jessica please get back on here and explain the Underwear Exchange? And please explain how it works and please explain WHY you think that is good parenting? to ridicule a child especially a handicapped one.

Come on Jessica let’s here that explaination! ”

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Comment On Teens Protesting At This Site wrote on Aug 12, 2009 9:04 PM:

” http://www.topix.com/forum/city/midland-mi ”

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Medicaid Pays 100 of Medical Bills and Possibly The Funeral Bill wrote on Aug 12, 2009 9:07 PM:

” Yes Jessica we are ALL waiting for YOU to explain the Underwear Exchange Program.

Jessica, why do you kick your kids out of the house and make them sleep outside?

Did you see the Teens protesting outside the courthouse? I applaud them. WAY TO GO TEENS! Keep up the good work! ”

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To Copy…Go to this site… wrote on Aug 12, 2009 9:09 PM:

” http://www.topix.com/forum/city/midland-mi

Here is the story of the teens protesting outside the courthouse…you can put comments there.

This discussion WILL NOT STOP!

Congrats on the teens for protesting!!! ”

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No comments there wrote on Aug 12, 2009 11:08 PM:

” there isn’t an option to comment on the page with the teens protesting.

but here is another page to keep commenting

http://www.ourmidland.com/articles/2009/08/06/police_and_courts/doc4a7ae45b2bf35657675541.txt#blogcomments ”

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To Jessica wrote on Aug 13, 2009 12:35 PM:

” Do unto others as you would HAVE them do unto you.

such a needless tragedy

oh and I was wondering when your going to address the “Underwear Exchange Program” that several have mentioned. You were gracious enough to defend your theory on kids working. I also agree that kids should work.

so now that is out of the way, back to this Underwear Exchange Program. care to explain that ”

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To Bios wrote on Aug 13, 2009 1:07 PM:

” did your whole bio family get to go to the funeral today? ”

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about funeral wrote on Aug 13, 2009 2:33 PM:

” The funeral is not untill tonight 4-8 pm and tomorrow morning but I have spoke to the bio mom and she told me she was going no matter what jessica told her. I think she has a right to go. Can you believe jessica is having him cremated? Probably just another sick sceme of hers to keep him away from his bio family. They can’t even go see him in his final resting place. Makes me sick to my stomach! ”

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Jessica Your Such A BH wrote on Aug 13, 2009 7:22 PM:

” Wow…Jessica….your such scumbag.

You are heartless woman.

And CPS WILL be investigating you. ”

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Awakening wrote on Aug 13, 2009 8:08 PM:

” as I was preparing dinner tonight and thinking over all that I’ve read this week about this sad situation. it dawned on me
there has been a MURDER. A child was MURDERED by another CHILD.

A murder in a place where this sort of thing is not common.

what is the focus point? the bad adoption parents.

it tells me there is a reason why the focus is not on such a hienous crime, but on this parent.

something is real messed up here folks. i had to comment and say yes i think an investigation should be forthcoming! ”

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why wrote on Aug 14, 2009 10:21 AM:

” how come there are no posts? Is anyone posting and it’s not registering or what?
where is Chicken Fried and Miranda? I’d like to hear how things are going there ”

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SunnyDaze wrote on Aug 14, 2009 1:12 PM:

” Why are there no posts? What’s going on out there? ”

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Kimberly wrote on Aug 14, 2009 1:54 PM:

” I just feel bad for the children-all of them!
This isn`t over. It`s not looking good for any of the families involved! A lost son, murder, prison, molestings, injured, and I`m sure the list goes on!
We the people and the state trusted this family. If she is a good person, well then, I`ve lost all trust in everyone.
People keep saying she ran her mouth about these foster/adopted children, if that is true, she should be ashamed of herself! ” ”

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passerby wrote on Aug 14, 2009 7:09 PM:

” BIO parents,
I wanted to let you know I passed by the funeral home yesterday. I saw your family there. I wanted to let you know my family is thinking of you. You will be ok. We wanted to stop but thought you needed to be with the family.

We did see new 5 there. ”

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Sue wrote on Aug 15, 2009 4:31 AM:

” To the McBride/Baden Family
I am glad the you were able to say goodbye to your son. I can only hope that the rest of your boys will stay safe and you will somehow get them back home. I know that it may be false hope but that is my wish for you. I know that the thought of what your family has been going thru makes my heart ache for you. As a mother the thought of never see my kids again hurts more than I can describe. We may not know what you have been thru but we do understand loss. Don’t give up or be discouraged. You do have a lot of people out there hoping & praying for you and your sons. I truly believe He doesn’t give you anymore than what you can handle. Bless you & yours. ” ”

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bio mother wrote on Aug 15, 2009 3:13 PM:

” thank you sue i am so glad you people are finally understanding that we are not the people in this case she is .it pretty sad that my sons will have a long time to try to fully recover from the lost of their brother justin .im so glad to hear that he had a real nice fureal yesterday and he had a 21gun salute .that makes me proud that he had at least been honered in the after life .and i understand that his little brothers stood up in his honer and read their letter of love and respect to him . ”

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hel p those poor kids wrote on Aug 15, 2009 5:18 PM:

” it was told that kids are out and she has they back in her clutches to do more damage to them .save them before it is to last .light candle and picked the court house to save them from her . ”

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Someone wrote on Aug 15, 2009 8:19 PM:

” Can someone please tell me what the Underwear Exchange Program is because I am a friend of both boys and I wanna keep all this up to date… ”

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Bio Parents wrote on Aug 15, 2009 9:49 PM:

” that is where my son had to smell his underwear to see if it was dirty to no weather or not he could sleep in his bed like a human instead of being treated like a dog .she would take all of his clothes and keep them in her bedroom and not let him have them so she could make him justify him having accidents in his pants . ”

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Bio Parents wrote on Aug 15, 2009 9:56 PM:

” TO ANYONE WHO NOS THIS FAMILY PLEASE DONT BE AFRIAD TO COME FORWARD AND SAVE MY KIDS FROM THIS ANIMALS BEFORE IT IS TO LATE.SHE CANT TOUCH YOU SO LET IT BE KNOWN WHAT HAPPEN ITS VERY INPORTANT TO THEIR WELL BEING AND SAFETY ”

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retarted bio mom wrote on Aug 15, 2009 10:04 PM:

” The way you talk on here makes you sound like a retarted hillbilly hick, so why dont you and your mullet wearing dip chit go back to yer trailer, and by the way idiot those pics on your myspace are totally disrespectfull to Justin. Why the F&(*&k would you put pics of him laying in his casket up here? You are the most ignorant piece of $hit i have ever heard of. No wonder you lost them. ”

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to Jessica wrote on Aug 15, 2009 10:28 PM:

” i know this is you and it the truth hurts I’m sorry but those are my kids you are maltreating and ,i feel some day you will understand how i feel when cps steps in .your bull stuff doesn’t scare me so keep it up .it just shows how bad of a person you really are .but thats OK I’m not the one who did this you did .so stand up and take your treatment . ”

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wow bio mom you are dumb wrote on Aug 15, 2009 10:43 PM:

” To bad this isnt jessica you moron.I am sure she has a lot more to do than slam you on here you scumbag hick.
I was just looking at the coments and pics on here and have seen what you wrote and the myspace you made and you and your hillbilly family are a bunch of mullet head, cigarette smoking, child molesting, inbreed,trailer house jackasses, and i would love to kick your azz. ”

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whose dumb wrote on Aug 15, 2009 11:09 PM:

” I don’t know either family but I met the bio family. I didn’t see a mullet, but the picture on myspace did have one. Old picture and maybe they were in style. I don’t know nor do I care. A hair cut never made a person a bad parent.

I also know many nice people that live in a trailer.

how come you are so hostile? do you know these families? Just cureious as your outbursts sounds rather unhealthy to me. ”

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Grief wrote on Aug 15, 2009 11:25 PM:

” Different people handle their grief different than others. it is not uncommon for familys to photograph their deceased loved ones. It is in all circles. Not just trailer trash as you say.

I happen to now many “high income” people that happen to live in a mobile home. But I never knew that dwellings would make you a bad or a good parent.

After all the adoptive parents live n what looks like a pretty nice home. Nothing special, but nice enough yet they housed a murderer who not only murdered his brother but severely hurt 2 of his other brothers and a step father that provided him this nice home.

I think I heard that this home also housed 2 girls that were molested.

I think I’d choose the trailer.

and if the hicks wouldn’t make me sniff my soiled underwear and make me wear them, then I’ll choose the hicks too.

bad hair day vs making a child sleep in soiled underwear. which is the crime?

SunnyDaze wrote on Aug 12, 2009 9:52 AM:

" What happened to all of the posts? Maybe it got a little too hot to handle? hahaha "

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WTH wrote on Aug 12, 2009 10:35 AM:

" wth ? where r all the posts? "

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Keep Posting Help The Remaining Children In That Home wrote on Aug 12, 2009 6:44 PM:

" WE THE PEOPLE....must keep following and follow up on this story.

It's now the communities job to protect these children. "

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Kimberly wrote on Aug 12, 2009 6:58 PM:

" " In Jessica`s hands...
a child murdered
2 molested
1 in prison
1 in jail for murder
3 others stabbed

what else went on in the past or behind closed doors? You KNOW there were things-just to lead up to this.
I do not see what she thinks the dif. is from the Bio parents?
The state and WE THE PEOPLE put our trust in her. Look what has happened!
I do not know the boys involved, or any of the parents, But I AM DISGUSTED at the FACTS here!
There has been ALOT said-one sticks in my mind: One woman said she was also a foster mom, had a little girl in her care, said the girl talked about "THE UNDERWEAR EXCHANGE PROGRAM" -she just knew it had to have been Jessica`s house she got that from.
I am very proud of all the protesters that did that yesterday! Good for you!
I also have friends that are police officers, so what-I`m sure they won`t look at Jessica the same after this has happened.
People have said alot-but these are the facts that WE KNOW happened in her care. The results are not looking very good for Jessica! "

I copied all posts:
I don`t remember who wrote it in there-but look back through if you copied them and you`ll read hers! I was shocked. "

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Posts wrote on Aug 12, 2009 7:33 PM:

" IUnknown wrote on Aug 4, 2009 2:55 PM:

" This is horrible I live right down the road and it's hard to believe this could happen in Coleman. "
Jason B. wrote on Aug 4, 2009 4:19 PM:

" Maybe the prosecuting attorney can research the law a little faster given this threat to our community. " "

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Posts wrote on Aug 12, 2009 7:33 PM:

" maggie wrote on Aug 4, 2009 4:21 PM:

" This is sure to happen when you have multiple people living in the same house that have a "troubled" past- Tempers flare up, things occur. This is a good reason why there should be a limit to how many "kids" can live in a foster care home.

I sure hope the STATE looks at this for a long time and thinks about making changes to the system. NOW are the boys parents (who was killed) going to receive some type of grievance pay because the STATE didn't protect their child?????? PROBABLY NOT- WASN"T THE STATE'S FAULT- Another fostercare story gone bad. "

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Posts wrote on Aug 12, 2009 7:34 PM:

" EG wrote on Aug 4, 2009 4:42 PM:

" Jason B.: Don't you think it's a good idea that he research everything, prior to filing charges? I wouldn't want him to just throw whatever charges he thinks of at everyone, and not have them stick. That happens enough already. The kid is either in the hospital under police supervision, or in a cell by now anyway. Researching hurt nothing. Nice try at being a smart a$$. " "

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Posts wrote on Aug 12, 2009 7:41 PM:

" jim wrote on Aug 4, 2009 11:57 PM:

" This is not the only foster care home in Coleman that the children were treated badly. There is another one that kicks kids out right before their 18th birthday because the checks will no longer be coming. This woman(MARY PAT) liked to place these children in these homes fast. she didnt care what went on in the home. just as long as she got them placed fast. I blame midland county for this and the foster care system. SHAME ON YOU FOR ALLOWING THIS TO HAPPEN TO THESE KIDS. I'M GLAD THE MOTHER GOT THE STATE TO PAY FOR HER NAILS .INSTEAD OF GETTING HIM THE HELP HE NEEDED. " "

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Copy wrote on Aug 12, 2009 7:53 PM:

" I have all the posts thru Aug 10

anyone know why we can't post on todays article about the kids picketing the court house? "

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About Jessica wrote on Aug 12, 2009 8:03 PM:

" Jessica posted a couple things the other day about how she was being bashed for making her kids work.

I for one do not find fault with her for making the kids work. I don't even find a lot of fault with her keeping the money. IF she doled it out to them. A lot of parents don't feel the kids should have a lot of money in their pocket.

I'm just pointing out the difference in parenting.

Come on Jessica let's here that explaination! "

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Comment On Teens Protesting At This Site wrote on Aug 12, 2009 9:04 PM:

" http://www.topix.com/forum/city/midland-mi "

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Medicaid Pays 100 of Medical Bills and Possibly The Funeral Bill wrote on Aug 12, 2009 9:07 PM:

" Yes Jessica we are ALL waiting for YOU to explain the Underwear Exchange Program.

Jessica, why do you kick your kids out of the house and make them sleep outside?

Did you see the Teens protesting outside the courthouse? I applaud them. WAY TO GO TEENS! Keep up the good work! "

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To Copy...Go to this site... wrote on Aug 12, 2009 9:09 PM:

" http://www.topix.com/forum/city/midland-mi

Here is the story of the teens protesting outside the courthouse...you can put comments there.

This discussion WILL NOT STOP!

Congrats on the teens for protesting!!! "

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No comments there wrote on Aug 12, 2009 11:08 PM:

" there isn't an option to comment on the page with the teens protesting.

but here is another page to keep commenting

http://www.ourmidland.com/articles/2009/08/06/police_and_courts/doc4a7ae45b2bf35657675541.txt#blogcomments "

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To Jessica wrote on Aug 13, 2009 12:35 PM:

" Do unto others as you would HAVE them do unto you.

such a needless tragedy

oh and I was wondering when your going to address the "Underwear Exchange Program" that several have mentioned. You were gracious enough to defend your theory on kids working. I also agree that kids should work.

so now that is out of the way, back to this Underwear Exchange Program. care to explain that "

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To Bios wrote on Aug 13, 2009 1:07 PM:

" did your whole bio family get to go to the funeral today? "

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about funeral wrote on Aug 13, 2009 2:33 PM:

" The funeral is not untill tonight 4-8 pm and tomorrow morning but I have spoke to the bio mom and she told me she was going no matter what jessica told her. I think she has a right to go. Can you believe jessica is having him cremated? Probably just another sick sceme of hers to keep him away from his bio family. They can't even go see him in his final resting place. Makes me sick to my stomach! "

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Jessica Your Such A BH wrote on Aug 13, 2009 7:22 PM:

" Wow...Jessica....your such scumbag.

You are heartless woman.

And CPS WILL be investigating you. "

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Awakening wrote on Aug 13, 2009 8:08 PM:

" as I was preparing dinner tonight and thinking over all that I've read this week about this sad situation. it dawned on me
there has been a MURDER. A child was MURDERED by another CHILD.

A murder in a place where this sort of thing is not common.

what is the focus point? the bad adoption parents.

it tells me there is a reason why the focus is not on such a hienous crime, but on this parent.

something is real messed up here folks. i had to comment and say yes i think an investigation should be forthcoming! "

Report Abuse

why wrote on Aug 14, 2009 10:21 AM:

" how come there are no posts? Is anyone posting and it's not registering or what?
where is Chicken Fried and Miranda? I'd like to hear how things are going there "

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SunnyDaze wrote on Aug 14, 2009 1:12 PM:

" Why are there no posts? What's going on out there? "

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Kimberly wrote on Aug 14, 2009 1:54 PM:

" I just feel bad for the children-all of them!
This isn`t over. It`s not looking good for any of the families involved! A lost son, murder, prison, molestings, injured, and I`m sure the list goes on!
We the people and the state trusted this family. If she is a good person, well then, I`ve lost all trust in everyone.
People keep saying she ran her mouth about these foster/adopted children, if that is true, she should be ashamed of herself! " "

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passerby wrote on Aug 14, 2009 7:09 PM:

" BIO parents,
I wanted to let you know I passed by the funeral home yesterday. I saw your family there. I wanted to let you know my family is thinking of you. You will be ok. We wanted to stop but thought you needed to be with the family.

We did see new 5 there. "

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Sue wrote on Aug 15, 2009 4:31 AM:

" To the McBride/Baden Family
I am glad the you were able to say goodbye to your son. I can only hope that the rest of your boys will stay safe and you will somehow get them back home. I know that it may be false hope but that is my wish for you. I know that the thought of what your family has been going thru makes my heart ache for you. As a mother the thought of never see my kids again hurts more than I can describe. We may not know what you have been thru but we do understand loss. Don't give up or be discouraged. You do have a lot of people out there hoping & praying for you and your sons. I truly believe He doesn't give you anymore than what you can handle. Bless you & yours. " "

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bio mother wrote on Aug 15, 2009 3:13 PM:

" thank you sue i am so glad you people are finally understanding that we are not the people in this case she is .it pretty sad that my sons will have a long time to try to fully recover from the lost of their brother justin .im so glad to hear that he had a real nice fureal yesterday and he had a 21gun salute .that makes me proud that he had at least been honered in the after life .and i understand that his little brothers stood up in his honer and read their letter of love and respect to him . "

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hel p those poor kids wrote on Aug 15, 2009 5:18 PM:

" it was told that kids are out and she has they back in her clutches to do more damage to them .save them before it is to last .light candle and picked the court house to save them from her . "

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Someone wrote on Aug 15, 2009 8:19 PM:

" Can someone please tell me what the Underwear Exchange Program is because I am a friend of both boys and I wanna keep all this up to date... "

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Bio Parents wrote on Aug 15, 2009 9:49 PM:

" that is where my son had to smell his underwear to see if it was dirty to no weather or not he could sleep in his bed like a human instead of being treated like a dog .she would take all of his clothes and keep them in her bedroom and not let him have them so she could make him justify him having accidents in his pants . "

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Bio Parents wrote on Aug 15, 2009 9:56 PM:

" TO ANYONE WHO NOS THIS FAMILY PLEASE DONT BE AFRIAD TO COME FORWARD AND SAVE MY KIDS FROM THIS ANIMALS BEFORE IT IS TO LATE.SHE CANT TOUCH YOU SO LET IT BE KNOWN WHAT HAPPEN ITS VERY INPORTANT TO THEIR WELL BEING AND SAFETY "

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retarted bio mom wrote on Aug 15, 2009 10:04 PM:

" The way you talk on here makes you sound like a retarted hillbilly hick, so why dont you and your mullet wearing dip chit go back to yer trailer, and by the way idiot those pics on your myspace are totally disrespectfull to Justin. Why the F&(*&k would you put pics of him laying in his casket up here? You are the most ignorant piece of $hit i have ever heard of. No wonder you lost them. "

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to Jessica wrote on Aug 15, 2009 10:28 PM:

" i know this is you and it the truth hurts I'm sorry but those are my kids you are maltreating and ,i feel some day you will understand how i feel when cps steps in .your bull stuff doesn't scare me so keep it up .it just shows how bad of a person you really are .but thats OK I'm not the one who did this you did .so stand up and take your treatment . "

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wow bio mom you are dumb wrote on Aug 15, 2009 10:43 PM:

" To bad this isnt jessica you moron.I am sure she has a lot more to do than slam you on here you scumbag hick.
I was just looking at the coments and pics on here and have seen what you wrote and the myspace you made and you and your hillbilly family are a bunch of mullet head, cigarette smoking, child molesting, inbreed,trailer house jackasses, and i would love to kick your azz. "

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whose dumb wrote on Aug 15, 2009 11:09 PM:

" I don't know either family but I met the bio family. I didn't see a mullet, but the picture on myspace did have one. Old picture and maybe they were in style. I don't know nor do I care. A hair cut never made a person a bad parent.

I also know many nice people that live in a trailer.

how come you are so hostile? do you know these families? Just cureious as your outbursts sounds rather unhealthy to me. "

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Grief wrote on Aug 15, 2009 11:25 PM:

" Different people handle their grief different than others. it is not uncommon for familys to photograph their deceased loved ones. It is in all circles. Not just trailer trash as you say.

I happen to now many "high income" people that happen to live in a mobile home. But I never knew that dwellings would make you a bad or a good parent.

I think I heard that this home also housed 2 girls that were molested.

I think I'd choose the trailer. :)

and if the hicks wouldn't make me sniff my soiled underwear and make me wear them, then I'll choose the hicks too.

bad hair day vs making a child sleep in soiled underwear. which is the crime?
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Jessica Lost Her PPO on bio Family wrote on Nov 2, 2009 10:27 PM:

” Jessica is vindictive, just attempting to get a PPO order against the bio family shows just what kind of a person she is. And not allowing the bio family to visit with their departed son is cruel.

Where is Justin buried? Rumor has it she had him creamated. Why is that?

No, Jessica’s home wasn’t the best place for these kids.

Her two daughters were molested.
One son in prison,
One son murdered.
One son in jail charged with murder.
Two sons assaulted and in the hospital.

THIS IS NOT A GOOD HOME PERIOD.
To many bad things have happend.

Anyone esle that knows of what went on in the home, needs to come forward. “

Jessica Lost Her PPO on bio Family wrote on Nov 2, 2009 10:27 PM:

" Jessica is vindictive, just attempting to get a PPO order against the bio family shows just what kind of a person she is. And not allowing the bio family to visit with their departed son is cruel.

Where is Justin buried? Rumor has it she had him creamated. Why is that?

No, Jessica's home wasn't the best place for these kids.

Her two daughters were molested.
One son in prison,
One son murdered.
One son in jail charged with murder.
Two sons assaulted and in the hospital.

THIS IS NOT A GOOD HOME PERIOD.
To many bad things have happend.

Anyone esle that knows of what went on in the home, needs to come forward. "
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Teens stabbed in Coleman were removed from Arenac County parents
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Midland Daily News15-year-old Steven J. Pribbernow (second from left) sits in the Midland County Courthouse during his arraignment on Aug. 4. He is being tried as an adult.
ARENAC COUNTY – Three teenagers stabbed Tuesday morning in Coleman, including one who died from the attack, were taken out the custody of their biological parents, who lived in Turner at the time, in May 2004, per an order from the Family Division of Circuit Court in Arenac County, with recommendations by the Arenac County Family Independence Agency (FIA).

An official statement faxed to the Independent from the Midland County Sheriff’s Office on Aug. 5 says, “15-year-old Steven Pribbernow was taken into custody for fatally stabbing his brother Justin Pribbernow aged 17. In addition, Steven Pribbernow has been charged with three counts of assault with intent to murder after he stabbed three additional family members. Injured in the assault was the suspect’s stepfather Joshua Saylor aged 32, his brother Kevin Pribbernow aged 15, and his brother Kody Pribbernow aged 13. … All three are recovering from their injuries at this time, however their exact condition is unknown.”

Faith Baden, who currently lives with her husband Kevin in Iosco County, says her three biological sons living under the same roof – Justin (McBride), Kevin (Baden) and Kody (Baden) – were removed from Kevin’s and her custody by the FIA because the agency and court felt the Badens had failed to protect their children from abuse, according to a copy of the court decision provided by Faith, that was issued May 19, 2004. It was this court decision that green lighted the removal of Faith and Kevin’s children.

Faith says she was rarely able to speak to her biological children that she claims had bounced around to several foster homes before landing in the Coleman one together, but recalled her last conversation with Justin, who she says had graduated from high school in May.

“He wanted to let me know he was going in the Marines,” she said, adding he was on a recruitment trip at the time of the call, staying in a hotel. “The hardest part is when I said goodbye to him, I didn’t know I was saying goodbye for good.

“I already lost my kids,” she said. “I’m paying the price twice, maybe three times [at the time of the interview, Kody and Kevin were still hospitalized].”

In Coleman, the three teenagers were living with Joshua and Jessica Saylor, according to Midland County Prosecutor Michael Carpenter.

How the children taken from their parents’ custody wound up in the Saylor household, however, is a mystery still under investigation.

A voicemail from Mark Stevens, director of Midland County Department of Human Services revealed that the Saylors’ home wasn’t a foster care home.

“This was not a foster home and it had nothing to do with the state,” Stevens said.

Carpenter says Jessica Saylor was formerly Jessica Pribbernow, until a divorce in 2006, and that the kids seem to have been in her custody prior to the divorce.

He added that there are many things to consider, such as if these parents were relatives fostering to help the biological parents and if the Saylors were taking in kids who didn’t live in Midland County.

Midland County’s Prosecuting Attorney did acknowledge, however, that Justin, Kevin and Kody were listed in the divorce decree filed in 2006.

“There’s a lot of people and a lot of evidence that we have to focus on,” Carpenter said. “We’re trying to find out what the relationship is between all the children and parents.”

When it comes to Faith’s relationship with her children that were removed from her custody, signs of a rocky relationship were alleged in the court decision signed by Judge Jack Scully.

Stated in the Arenac County court documents were allegations of neglect and abuse by Faith and Kevin, such as an allegation that they knew their children were being sexually abused, but not doing anything to stop it. The Arenac County Circuit Court Family Division decision also says there were instances of physical abuse against the children while they were in the custody of Faith and Kevin.

An appeal of Scully’s decision was filed, but the Michigan Court of Appeals sided with FIA.

Faith says funeral visitation is planned for Justin next Monday.

Steven Pribbernow was arraigned Tuesday.

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On 8/6/09 at 03:46 PM, paulmcbride wrote:
i think that its appauling how much energy is being used to demonize Faith and myself in this tragedy. We had alot of drama in our lives, but our children were not being abused sexually or physically. I challenge any court to show any proof other than slanderous allegations that such things happened. The focus should center around the neglect of my son, who died in the sayer(?)s custody. It was this in this home that my son was allowed to be in the presense of a murderer which took his life. My son was a bright, honorable young man with a bright future. a future taken from him because of the neglect of these two “parents.” He was obviously better off in our custody…if the state had not been so quick to take these children my son would still be alive and well. another question is did these people have a license for foster care? This is insane.

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Teens stabbed in Coleman were removed from Arenac County parents
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Midland Daily News15-year-old Steven J. Pribbernow (second from left) sits in the Midland County Courthouse during his arraignment on Aug. 4. He is being tried as an adult.
ARENAC COUNTY - Three teenagers stabbed Tuesday morning in Coleman, including one who died from the attack, were taken out the custody of their biological parents, who lived in Turner at the time, in May 2004, per an order from the Family Division of Circuit Court in Arenac County, with recommendations by the Arenac County Family Independence Agency (FIA).

An official statement faxed to the Independent from the Midland County Sheriff's Office on Aug. 5 says, “15-year-old Steven Pribbernow was taken into custody for fatally stabbing his brother Justin Pribbernow aged 17. In addition, Steven Pribbernow has been charged with three counts of assault with intent to murder after he stabbed three additional family members. Injured in the assault was the suspect's stepfather Joshua Saylor aged 32, his brother Kevin Pribbernow aged 15, and his brother Kody Pribbernow aged 13. … All three are recovering from their injuries at this time, however their exact condition is unknown.”

Faith Baden, who currently lives with her husband Kevin in Iosco County, says her three biological sons living under the same roof - Justin (McBride), Kevin (Baden) and Kody (Baden) - were removed from Kevin's and her custody by the FIA because the agency and court felt the Badens had failed to protect their children from abuse, according to a copy of the court decision provided by Faith, that was issued May 19, 2004. It was this court decision that green lighted the removal of Faith and Kevin's children.

“I already lost my kids,” she said. “I'm paying the price twice, maybe three times [at the time of the interview, Kody and Kevin were still hospitalized].”

In Coleman, the three teenagers were living with Joshua and Jessica Saylor, according to Midland County Prosecutor Michael Carpenter.

How the children taken from their parents' custody wound up in the Saylor household, however, is a mystery still under investigation.

A voicemail from Mark Stevens, director of Midland County Department of Human Services revealed that the Saylors' home wasn't a foster care home.

"This was not a foster home and it had nothing to do with the state," Stevens said.

Carpenter says Jessica Saylor was formerly Jessica Pribbernow, until a divorce in 2006, and that the kids seem to have been in her custody prior to the divorce.

He added that there are many things to consider, such as if these parents were relatives fostering to help the biological parents and if the Saylors were taking in kids who didn't live in Midland County.

Midland County's Prosecuting Attorney did acknowledge, however, that Justin, Kevin and Kody were listed in the divorce decree filed in 2006.

“There's a lot of people and a lot of evidence that we have to focus on,” Carpenter said. “We're trying to find out what the relationship is between all the children and parents.”

When it comes to Faith's relationship with her children that were removed from her custody, signs of a rocky relationship were alleged in the court decision signed by Judge Jack Scully.

An appeal of Scully's decision was filed, but the Michigan Court of Appeals sided with FIA.

Faith says funeral visitation is planned for Justin next Monday.

Steven Pribbernow was arraigned Tuesday.

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On 8/6/09 at 03:46 PM, paulmcbride wrote:
i think that its appauling how much energy is being used to demonize Faith and myself in this tragedy. We had alot of drama in our lives, but our children were not being abused sexually or physically. I challenge any court to show any proof other than slanderous allegations that such things happened. The focus should center around the neglect of my son, who died in the sayer(?)s custody. It was this in this home that my son was allowed to be in the presense of a murderer which took his life. My son was a bright, honorable young man with a bright future. a future taken from him because of the neglect of these two "parents." He was obviously better off in our custody...if the state had not been so quick to take these children my son would still be alive and well. another question is did these people have a license for foster care? This is insane.

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In support of wrote on Nov 2, 2009 2:06 PM:

” I wanted to attend this hearing this morning, but was unable to. Good luck and I hope to be at the other hearing/trials. ”

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To Steven wrote on Nov 2, 2009 2:23 PM:

” You’re braver than you believe, stronger than you seem, and smarter than you think”

You are just a child. ”

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Frankie wrote on Nov 2, 2009 2:58 PM:

” Yes he is a child….a child that has killed another young adult in cold blood…. ”

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To Steven wrote on Nov 2, 2009 3:26 PM:

” A child who was pushed and snapped ”

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Paul wrote on Nov 2, 2009 3:43 PM:

” regardless of his age his actions caused the death of one person and injured two others, We can;’t afford to take a chance that he will snap again. ”

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Boone wrote on Nov 2, 2009 3:53 PM:

” Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time. When you kill someone and attempt to kill several others, you have to be responsible for your actions….if you don’t know it is wrong to stab someone you shouldn’t be out in public. ”

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sympathy wrote on Nov 2, 2009 4:52 PM:

” I firmly bleive this child did not know what he was doing.

It’s stupid to say “don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time”. Gimme a break. when people snap it means they snapped, have no control.

Yes, killing is wrong. WRONG. but I belive he did not know what he was doing. ”

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Gina wrote on Nov 2, 2009 4:55 PM:

” Just wondering how long it will take for them to close up this forum for comments. Probably when the kids get out of school and find out about the story… ”

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kimberly wrote on Nov 2, 2009 4:58 PM:

” It is hard enough to be a teenager. 15 is an awkward age. I only HOPE what people are saying about what happened, isn`t true. But so many people are saying the same things. I would HOPE these boys were not abused as people are saying. From the outside, IF any of the things are true(of the abuse) At the age of 15, I guess I`d have to say…how could he not snap? He had no chance at life-IF these things being said are true. Even a small percentage of the sayings. Very sad situation! My heart goes out! A mother has lost her children not only once but twice. And with absolutely no closure. None. Hopefully everyone will get what is deserved here, and no less. There are alot of supporters, and everyone needs to know that. There is alot more to this, that hasn`t come out. I feel truth will be told-if not forced out in the end. whether there was abuse or not, Hopefully our system will not fail us. Whether these people were good, or bad. Truth ALMOST always comes out in the end. It`s going to be a very tough time for EVERYONE involved here from today on-with trials and hearings. ”

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ME wrote on Nov 2, 2009 5:02 PM:

” God Bless Him and I hope everything goes well for my brother… I know he did take a life, but I don’t believe that gives them a right to take away his, their family has lost enough. he need’s to have a chance to be able to make up for his crimes, not just suffer the consequences, he needs a chance for redemption, we all do, but too bad our government never sees’ past the crime committed… He’s a kid that just snapped in a pressuring situation because he had no one he could turn to for help, obviously our foster care system doesn’t pay enough attention to their kids or the homes they put them in, because if they did, he might have had someone to trust… someone that cared enough to notice how he was ripped away from his friends (that he saw as family) only months before… I know him and he wasn’t like how our stupid reporters portray…I knew some of his family too, and tho I do support Steven, May Justin Rest In Peace… And May God watch over that family our courts, and our country, because God’s all that can help us now. ”

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SunnyDaze wrote on Nov 2, 2009 5:03 PM:

” I hope he can get help. Regardless of the whole story he needs help and jails/prisons are not the place to get the kind of help he needs.

I’m hoping these biological parents get what is coming due to them! Too much has been told to not believe a lot of it is true.

PUNISH THEM! Punish them to the fullest for what THEY have done to bring this on. ”

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To Me wrote on Nov 2, 2009 5:12 PM:

” You said you are his brother? Are you one of the boys? Or a friend? ”

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Angel in the Dark wrote on Nov 2, 2009 5:23 PM:

” I think this is so sad. People contuine to pound the family that took him in. I do not see any of you offering up your home to foster children. If you took the time to know the family you would know that they love their children. I addition they have been ripped to shreds by the media and many people on these comments. They have not only lost one son but two. They have been investigated and no abuse let me repeat no abuse was found in the home. This family has suffered so much by a system that was supposed to protect them also. Do you think they singed of for this when they agreed to do foster care. Nope. No one dose. You should pray for this family and encourage them not bash on them. And for those of you say Steven snapped well people who set their alarm to get up and kill people don’t snap. It takes a certain level of planning to want to kill your whole family with a knife. These are very personal crimes. He had to look at each person in the eyes before he stabbed them. Now how dose someone snap when he planned it and had to look at the person in the face ”

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Lynn Bainbridge wrote on Nov 2, 2009 5:24 PM:

” Lots of kids are “pushed” beyond their limits. He may have been one of them. The fact that he snapped and commited such a horrendous crime is only proof that he can “snap” again. He should not be left in the general public. Life in prison is appropriate. A 15 year old understands death is a real concept. It is not a video game. ”

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ME wrote on Nov 2, 2009 5:30 PM:

” We cant blame all of this on the family, they are going through the loss of not only Justin, but Steven too, there are other kids in that house too, kids younger than Steven that are scared, we cant break up that family any more without doing more damage, they need prayer and help, but not to the extreme of punishment. I hope Steven can get help too but he also has to know the consequences of his actions… he’s my friend and I have been writing him, his own words, “i need you to know that i made a terrible mistake, that i would NEVER do again.” he is rid with regret because he loved his brother and he made a mistake, he lost control for one moment in time and will never stop feeling horrible, never stop having nightmares, never stop regretting what happened, for the rest of his life. He knows the consequences, and i don’t believe jail is going to do him good, but do him worse, he’ll want to kill himself by the time they let him out, he needs help, not to be released into the public right away, but just to be helped. and the parents weren’t biological, Steven and the some of the other kids were adopted. They were still a family though, a family that’s torn beyond repair, so why can’t anyone find the heart just to help them, to help the family and help Steven. God Bless their family. ”

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ME wrote on Nov 2, 2009 5:32 PM:

” I am not biological, I am just his friend that considers him family.I love him like my brother and therefore I consider him my family. ”

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ME wrote on Nov 2, 2009 5:49 PM:

” To Lynn…you think of this in black and white like our government…and do you see where our government is going? Locking someone up that needs help isn’t a way to get rid of their problems, it’s a way to make them worse. That’s what people do these days with things they just dont want to deal with. See the shades of grey in between, and you’ll see that our government is blind and doesn’t ever see beyond the surface, yes he lost control, but did YOU know him personally? because if so, I dont believe you don have the right to judge him by his actions, look at the world today, actions aren’t what define a person but yet they are enough to condemn one. he needs help, not to be locked up. Sure, he needs to be kept out of public for a while, but not in prison. Steven was/is an amazing person, he helped us all like a guardian angel, thats what we called him, he wanted to join the navy, (maybe it was army? im not sure but that dont matter) serve for his country, he wanted to help people, he was a boy that had to see the cruelties of the world at a young age, he lost control, but he needed help and didnt have anyone to turn to. You see him as another problem that our government wants to put away so they dont have to deal with it. he understands death more than most of us, he understands pain, suffering, do you? because im sure that compared to him, you don’t. And he didn’t play video games. He doesn’t need to be condemned so quickly as to not be given a chance at redemption, we all deserve at least that. God Bless. ”

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ME wrote on Nov 2, 2009 5:56 PM:

” I just wanted to clarify that though I support Steven as my brother, I also show my support and care for the family, I don’t believe what I hear unless I see it for myself and I know some of them enough to say they are good people. But it’s the good people bad things always seem to happen to. They don’t need us slammin’ them OR STEVEN for that matter, on here, they need prayer, at least it’s some compensation for the pain they’ve endured. God Bless Them and Steven, I support and care for both of them. ”

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Me wrote on Nov 2, 2009 6:07 PM:

” I do believe he needs help but not at the cost of other people. You say you are his friend and you know the family so how so you think the family feels knowing he may get out someday? Don’t you think they are plagued with nightmares or are questioning what they did wrong? I do not think you have any idea what it is like to be them or him. If he is truly sorry than great he can seek his forgiveness through God. But just because you are forgiven it dose not let you off the hook for the crime. If he is truly repentant than he can do Gods work while he is in prison. This family will forever be scared by what has happened. I could not fathom the nightmare they are living. Steven is at the age of accountability he knows right from wrong. Yes he is young but so was his brother Justin and his other brothers and sisters. Their lives will never be the same and neither should his. ”

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To Me wrote on Nov 2, 2009 6:23 PM:

” Angel in the dark
I do know this was not planned. I`m not going to say anything more to hurt this trial or “confuse” anyone reading that may be a part of the jury panel. But I can tell you, he did not plan this. But you have your right to an opinion, you are obviously a friend of the Saylor`s. That`s ok.
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You are a good friend! I am very proud of you! I have no idea who you are, and I am proud.
My own personal opinion, I believe All these boys need alot of council. Something very tramatic has happened to alot of people. Of course I think he needs help! He had/has no chance now. The abuse was horrific and he had no one to get the help he needed. He was BLAMED for something that was NOT his OR his brothers fault! For something that happened a couple years ago. No one is to blame but the PARENTS. And this my friends, is where it all began. A few years ago, in their home. And these people blame thes boys, they took absolutely no responsibility, and continued on blaming the boys.
AGAIN, MY opinion! ”

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Praying wrote on Nov 2, 2009 6:30 PM:

” I believe that this boy and I mean BOY, needs our prayers not our judgements. I understand a life was lost and a family torn apart. We should all be praying that God will take care of the family and Steven. Regardless what is decided in court he will never be able to, move past the things that happened. I pray for the family and Steven regularly and know I am not the only one. This has affected more than just the family, he was a student in our schools. He has friends that love and care about him, regardless of what he has done. I think we should be very careful, because our kids are watching, and hurting. ”

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kimberly wrote on Nov 2, 2009 6:36 PM:

” Praying:
I agree. It`s an awful situation, all around. ”

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Me wrote on Nov 2, 2009 6:45 PM:

” Well My opinion what are you talking about? A couple of years ago?? Blaming the boys for what?? They had to take some responsibility for these kids because it is very evident that they were well taken care of. It sounds like you have no idea what you are talking about. There was NO ABUSE in the home. When are people going to figure that one out! No Abuse. They have been investigated and nothing was found, nothing. You want to blame the parents for what trying to love him and give him a life. He did have a future and that was because these people opened there home and offered him one. They loved him and still do. It sounds like you have a personal vendetta against these people and should keep you opinion to your self! ”

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No Caring Family wrote on Nov 2, 2009 7:03 PM:

” “the family till loves him”??? Are they going to see him in the jail? Are they providing him with the necessities he needs while incarcerated?

NO and NO.

Caring? I don’t think so. ”

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To Me wrote on Nov 2, 2009 7:04 PM:

” To Me:
No need to get angry, Something very terrible went wrong in their house, 3-4 years or so ago. i am not going to put it out on here for everyone to read. They blamed the boys for it. That is all I am going to say on that. The adopted mom and the step dad blamed the boys. Steven just never got the trust back from them, and they made it clear to him. That`s all I can say on here. I am sorry you are upset about this. But yes, I do know this fact. As for the other accusations on that family, I myself, do not know if they are true or not. Alot of people said alot of horrible things about them, I only hope it isn`t true. ”

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No Caring Family wrote on Nov 2, 2009 7:14 PM:

” Well if you knew anything about the legal system they cannot see him. It is called a No Contact Order.But my question to you is do you really think Steven would want to look at the person he called Dad in face after he tried to kill him? I really don’t think so. And for his mom I feel so sorry for her she must be so torn as to what to do. And to be completly honest he lost his right to his family the day he tried to kill them all! ”

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To Me wrote on Nov 2, 2009 7:15 PM:

” Oh and, NO! I have absolutely no personal vendetta against them, or anyone for that fact. None what so ever. You are either reading it wrong or?? I am just very opinionated! I should`ve been a lawyer! HA!
Whether or not they loved him and still love him, huh. I have no idea. As I`m sure you or anyone else OUTSIDE of that house does either. They are the ones that know the truth. ”

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To Me wrote on Nov 2, 2009 7:18 PM:

” It still sounds like you do not know what you are talking about. And regardless of him not being trusted it sounds like they were on the right track. He did try to kill them all. ”

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To Me wrote on Nov 2, 2009 7:25 PM:

” No, I know. Something happened. You obviously do not know about it and I am not going to put it on here for everyone to read and get even more things started. Steven and Justin had NOTHING to do with it, but the parents blamed them. This family knows exactly what it is that I am talking about. I am not about to say it on here. Anyone that knows the family, knows what I am talking about.
And by the way ME, you don`t sound like a child anymore. Hmmm ”

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Me wrote on Nov 2, 2009 7:40 PM:

” I never said I was a child and I was replying to me. And because you do not trust someone dose that give them the right to kill someone? If that is true we have a lot of problems because I can say that I question our President at times. And really who cares if something happened 3 or 4 years ago it still dose not change what happened in August dose it? And I do know what you are talking about and I find it very sad that this family has gone through so much. They are very good people and it is so sad that so much tragedy has befallen such wonderful people. We need to remember that bad things can happen to good people. I know that in many of these cases something was going on in the home but this was not the case. Nothing was going on nothing. Steven must of had deeper issues that no one knew about before they got him. It is just sad because they had no idea what they were getting themselves into. ”

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To Me wrote on Nov 2, 2009 7:56 PM:

” Ok, You are getting this confused, HE never got their trust back from something someone else did in their home, and yes, the thing that happened 3 years ago has EVERYTHING to do with it. That`s where it all started. No, No one has the right to kill. No one has the right to abuse. No one has the right to blame others when they are at fault. I agree 100%. I also said, I would HOPE that everything everyone is saying about this adopted mom, is not true. About the abuse that went on in their home. I hope. As I said, THEY are the only ones that know what was done behind closed doors. And who knows, Maybe that`s what will turn out? Like I said, in the end, the truth USUALLY comes out. ”

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To Me wrote on Nov 2, 2009 8:09 PM:

” And so what he never got their trust back. Your point is….. It is not an excuse to kill your whole family. I think you are confused. I think you do not know what stared it and neither do I but like I said before if takes some level of planning to try and kill your whole family with a knife. He had to look at them and stab them. They must of been on to something by not trusting him!!! ”

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Brad wrote on Nov 2, 2009 8:26 PM:

” To ME

Do not try and do your friend a favor by testifying. What you are saying could be read to say he was planning this for three years. I do not think that is what you mean but, testimony gets twisted. ”

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To Me wrote on Nov 2, 2009 8:35 PM:

” To Brad

What???? ”

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Caring Family My wrote on Nov 2, 2009 9:38 PM:

” lost his right when he tried to kill them all?

and why would he do that?

Caring family my —

they care about themselves and that’s all they care about. ”

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Adoptive Family Lost PPO Order wrote on Nov 2, 2009 9:53 PM:

” Jessica tried to get a PPO against the biological family for stalking. IT WAS DENIED.

The Saylor home needs to be investigated, these kids are not safe. To many bad things have happend in Jessica’s home. Get those kids away from her. ”

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To me wrote on Nov 2, 2009 9:59 PM:

” To caring family
It sounds like you have some anger issues. I have no idea why he tried to kill them. And if all they cared about was themselves why would they open their home in the first place. Also though didn’t the mom spend the whole time at the hospital with her family but hay that would be her not caring right? And yes he did lose his “right” to his family when tried to kill them. He killed let me say killed his brother and tried to kill his other brothers and also his dad. We still do not know if he tried to kill has mom or his sisters. One thing still has not be answered do you really think he wants to see his parents? I would say no! ”

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what wrote on Nov 2, 2009 10:07 PM:

” To Adoptive Family Lost PPO
I find it very sickning that you would even rejoice over something like that. I find it very sad that they even had to attempt to get a PPO. In addition
if you have not figured it out yet they have been investigated and there was no ABUSE hello. Maybe your home needs to be investigated. Maybe someone should go around and stalk your family, take pictures, tell ungodly amount of lies. I have been very impressed with them. They have worked hard to protect their family from the media and from vicious people like yourself. Do us all a favor leave these innocent good people alone! ”

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In support of wrote on Nov 2, 2009 2:06 PM:

" I wanted to attend this hearing this morning, but was unable to. Good luck and I hope to be at the other hearing/trials. "

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To Steven wrote on Nov 2, 2009 2:23 PM:

" You're braver than you believe, stronger than you seem, and smarter than you think"

You are just a child. "

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Frankie wrote on Nov 2, 2009 2:58 PM:

" Yes he is a child....a child that has killed another young adult in cold blood.... "

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To Steven wrote on Nov 2, 2009 3:26 PM:

" A child who was pushed and snapped "

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Paul wrote on Nov 2, 2009 3:43 PM:

" regardless of his age his actions caused the death of one person and injured two others, We can;'t afford to take a chance that he will snap again. "

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Boone wrote on Nov 2, 2009 3:53 PM:

" Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. When you kill someone and attempt to kill several others, you have to be responsible for your actions....if you don't know it is wrong to stab someone you shouldn't be out in public. "

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sympathy wrote on Nov 2, 2009 4:52 PM:

" I firmly bleive this child did not know what he was doing.

It's stupid to say "don't do the crime if you can't do the time". Gimme a break. when people snap it means they snapped, have no control.

Yes, killing is wrong. WRONG. but I belive he did not know what he was doing. "

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Gina wrote on Nov 2, 2009 4:55 PM:

" Just wondering how long it will take for them to close up this forum for comments. Probably when the kids get out of school and find out about the story... "

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kimberly wrote on Nov 2, 2009 4:58 PM:

" It is hard enough to be a teenager. 15 is an awkward age. I only HOPE what people are saying about what happened, isn`t true. But so many people are saying the same things. I would HOPE these boys were not abused as people are saying. From the outside, IF any of the things are true(of the abuse) At the age of 15, I guess I`d have to say...how could he not snap? He had no chance at life-IF these things being said are true. Even a small percentage of the sayings. Very sad situation! My heart goes out! A mother has lost her children not only once but twice. And with absolutely no closure. None. Hopefully everyone will get what is deserved here, and no less. There are alot of supporters, and everyone needs to know that. There is alot more to this, that hasn`t come out. I feel truth will be told-if not forced out in the end. whether there was abuse or not, Hopefully our system will not fail us. Whether these people were good, or bad. Truth ALMOST always
comes out in the end. It`s going to be a very tough time for EVERYONE involved here from today on-with trials and hearings. "

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ME wrote on Nov 2, 2009 5:02 PM:

" God Bless Him and I hope everything goes well for my brother... I know he did take a life, but I don't believe that gives them a right to take away his, their family has lost enough. he need's to have a chance to be able to make up for his crimes, not just suffer the consequences, he needs a chance for redemption, we all do, but too bad our government never sees' past the crime committed... He's a kid that just snapped in a pressuring situation because he had no one he could turn to for help, obviously our foster care system doesn't pay enough attention to their kids or the homes they put them in, because if they did, he might have had someone to trust... someone that cared enough to notice how he was ripped away from his friends (that he saw as family) only months before... I know him and he wasn't like how our stupid reporters portray...I knew some of his family too, and tho I do support Steven, May Justin Rest In Peace... And May God watch over that
family our courts, and our country, because God's all that can help us now. "

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SunnyDaze wrote on Nov 2, 2009 5:03 PM:

" I hope he can get help. Regardless of the whole story he needs help and jails/prisons are not the place to get the kind of help he needs.

I'm hoping these biological parents get what is coming due to them! Too much has been told to not believe a lot of it is true.

PUNISH THEM! Punish them to the fullest for what THEY have done to bring this on. "

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To Me wrote on Nov 2, 2009 5:12 PM:

" You said you are his brother? Are you one of the boys? Or a friend? "

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Angel in the Dark wrote on Nov 2, 2009 5:23 PM:

" I think this is so sad. People contuine to pound the family that took him in. I do not see any of you offering up your home to foster children. If you took the time to know the family you would know that they love their children. I addition they have been ripped to shreds by the media and many people on these comments. They have not only lost one son but two. They have been investigated and no abuse let me repeat no abuse was found in the home. This family has suffered so much by a system that was supposed to protect them also. Do you think they singed of for this when they agreed to do foster care. Nope. No one dose. You should pray for this family and encourage them not bash on them. And for those of you say Steven snapped well people who set their alarm to get up and kill people don't snap. It takes a certain level of planning to want to kill your whole family with a knife. These are very personal crimes. He had to look at each person in the eyes
before he stabbed them. Now how dose someone snap when he planned it and had to look at the person in the face "

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Lynn Bainbridge wrote on Nov 2, 2009 5:24 PM:

" Lots of kids are "pushed" beyond their limits. He may have been one of them. The fact that he snapped and commited such a horrendous crime is only proof that he can "snap" again. He should not be left in the general public. Life in prison is appropriate. A 15 year old understands death is a real concept. It is not a video game. "

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ME wrote on Nov 2, 2009 5:30 PM:

" We cant blame all of this on the family, they are going through the loss of not only Justin, but Steven too, there are other kids in that house too, kids younger than Steven that are scared, we cant break up that family any more without doing more damage, they need prayer and help, but not to the extreme of punishment. I hope Steven can get help too but he also has to know the consequences of his actions... he's my friend and I have been writing him, his own words, "i need you to know that i made a terrible mistake, that i would NEVER do again." he is rid with regret because he loved his brother and he made a mistake, he lost control for one moment in time and will never stop feeling horrible, never stop having nightmares, never stop regretting what happened, for the rest of his life. He knows the consequences, and i don't believe jail is going to do him good, but do him worse, he'll want to kill himself by the time they let him out, he needs help, not
to be released into the public right away, but just to be helped. and the parents weren't biological, Steven and the some of the other kids were adopted. They were still a family though, a family that's torn beyond repair, so why can't anyone find the heart just to help them, to help the family and help Steven. God Bless their family. "

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ME wrote on Nov 2, 2009 5:32 PM:

" I am not biological, I am just his friend that considers him family.I love him like my brother and therefore I consider him my family. "

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ME wrote on Nov 2, 2009 5:49 PM:

" To Lynn...you think of this in black and white like our government...and do you see where our government is going? Locking someone up that needs help isn't a way to get rid of their problems, it's a way to make them worse. That's what people do these days with things they just dont want to deal with. See the shades of grey in between, and you'll see that our government is blind and doesn't ever see beyond the surface, yes he lost control, but did YOU know him personally? because if so, I dont believe you don have the right to judge him by his actions, look at the world today, actions aren't what define a person but yet they are enough to condemn one. he needs help, not to be locked up. Sure, he needs to be kept out of public for a while, but not in prison. Steven was/is an amazing person, he helped us all like a guardian angel, thats what we called him, he wanted to join the navy, (maybe it was army? im not sure but that dont matter) serve for his
country, he wanted to help people, he was a boy that had to see the cruelties of the world at a young age, he lost control, but he needed help and didnt have anyone to turn to. You see him as another problem that our government wants to put away so they dont have to deal with it. he understands death more than most of us, he understands pain, suffering, do you? because im sure that compared to him, you don't. And he didn't play video games. He doesn't need to be condemned so quickly as to not be given a chance at redemption, we all deserve at least that. God Bless. "

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ME wrote on Nov 2, 2009 5:56 PM:

" I just wanted to clarify that though I support Steven as my brother, I also show my support and care for the family, I don't believe what I hear unless I see it for myself and I know some of them enough to say they are good people. But it's the good people bad things always seem to happen to. They don't need us slammin' them OR STEVEN for that matter, on here, they need prayer, at least it's some compensation for the pain they've endured. God Bless Them and Steven, I support and care for both of them. "

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Me wrote on Nov 2, 2009 6:07 PM:

" I do believe he needs help but not at the cost of other people. You say you are his friend and you know the family so how so you think the family feels knowing he may get out someday? Don't you think they are plagued with nightmares or are questioning what they did wrong? I do not think you have any idea what it is like to be them or him. If he is truly sorry than great he can seek his forgiveness through God. But just because you are forgiven it dose not let you off the hook for the crime. If he is truly repentant than he can do Gods work while he is in prison. This family will forever be scared by what has happened. I could not fathom the nightmare they are living. Steven is at the age of accountability he knows right from wrong. Yes he is young but so was his brother Justin and his other brothers and sisters. Their lives will never be the same and neither should his. "

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To Me wrote on Nov 2, 2009 6:23 PM:

" Angel in the dark
I do know this was not planned. I`m not going to say anything more to hurt this trial or "confuse" anyone reading that may be a part of the jury panel. But I can tell you, he did not plan this. But you have your right to an opinion, you are obviously a friend of the Saylor`s. That`s ok.
To ME
You are a good friend! I am very proud of you! I have no idea who you are, and I am proud.
My own personal opinion, I believe All these boys need alot of council. Something very tramatic has happened to alot of people. Of course I think he needs help! He had/has no chance now. The abuse was horrific and he had no one to get the help he needed. He was BLAMED for something that was NOT his OR his brothers fault! For something that happened a couple years ago. No one is to blame but the PARENTS. And this my friends, is where it all began. A few years ago, in their home. And these people blame thes boys, they took absolutely no responsibility, and continued on blaming the boys.
AGAIN, MY opinion! "

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Praying wrote on Nov 2, 2009 6:30 PM:

" I believe that this boy and I mean BOY, needs our prayers not our judgements. I understand a life was lost and a family torn apart. We should all be praying that God will take care of the family and Steven. Regardless what is decided in court he will never be able to, move past the things that happened. I pray for the family and Steven regularly and know I am not the only one. This has affected more than just the family, he was a student in our schools. He has friends that love and care about him, regardless of what he has done. I think we should be very careful, because our kids are watching, and hurting. "

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kimberly wrote on Nov 2, 2009 6:36 PM:

" Praying:
I agree. It`s an awful situation, all around. "

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Me wrote on Nov 2, 2009 6:45 PM:

" Well My opinion what are you talking about? A couple of years ago?? Blaming the boys for what?? They had to take some responsibility for these kids because it is very evident that they were well taken care of. It sounds like you have no idea what you are talking about. There was NO ABUSE in the home. When are people going to figure that one out! No Abuse. They have been investigated and nothing was found, nothing. You want to blame the parents for what trying to love him and give him a life. He did have a future and that was because these people opened there home and offered him one. They loved him and still do. It sounds like you have a personal vendetta against these people and should keep you opinion to your self! "

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No Caring Family wrote on Nov 2, 2009 7:03 PM:

" "the family till loves him"??? Are they going to see him in the jail? Are they providing him with the necessities he needs while incarcerated?

NO and NO.

Caring? I don't think so. "

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To Me wrote on Nov 2, 2009 7:04 PM:

" To Me:
No need to get angry, Something very terrible went wrong in their house, 3-4 years or so ago. i am not going to put it out on here for everyone to read. They blamed the boys for it. That is all I am going to say on that. The adopted mom and the step dad blamed the boys. Steven just never got the trust back from them, and they made it clear to him. That`s all I can say on here. I am sorry you are upset about this. But yes, I do know this fact. As for the other accusations on that family, I myself, do not know if they are true or not. Alot of people said alot of horrible things about them, I only hope it isn`t true. "

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No Caring Family wrote on Nov 2, 2009 7:14 PM:

" Well if you knew anything about the legal system they cannot see him. It is called a No Contact Order.But my question to you is do you really think Steven would want to look at the person he called Dad in face after he tried to kill him? I really don't think so. And for his mom I feel so sorry for her she must be so torn as to what to do. And to be completly honest he lost his right to his family the day he tried to kill them all! "

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To Me wrote on Nov 2, 2009 7:15 PM:

" Oh and, NO! I have absolutely no personal vendetta against them, or anyone for that fact. None what so ever. You are either reading it wrong or?? I am just very opinionated! I should`ve been a lawyer! HA!
Whether or not they loved him and still love him, huh. I have no idea. As I`m sure you or anyone else OUTSIDE of that house does either. They are the ones that know the truth. "

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To Me wrote on Nov 2, 2009 7:18 PM:

" It still sounds like you do not know what you are talking about. And regardless of him not being trusted it sounds like they were on the right track. He did try to kill them all. "

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To Me wrote on Nov 2, 2009 7:25 PM:

" No, I know. Something happened. You obviously do not know about it and I am not going to put it on here for everyone to read and get even more things started. Steven and Justin had NOTHING to do with it, but the parents blamed them. This family knows exactly what it is that I am talking about. I am not about to say it on here. Anyone that knows the family, knows what I am talking about.
And by the way ME, you don`t sound like a child anymore. Hmmm "

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Me wrote on Nov 2, 2009 7:40 PM:

" I never said I was a child and I was replying to me. And because you do not trust someone dose that give them the right to kill someone? If that is true we have a lot of problems because I can say that I question our President at times. And really who cares if something happened 3 or 4 years ago it still dose not change what happened in August dose it? And I do know what you are talking about and I find it very sad that this family has gone through so much. They are very good people and it is so sad that so much tragedy has befallen such wonderful people. We need to remember that bad things can happen to good people. I know that in many of these cases something was going on in the home but this was not the case. Nothing was going on nothing. Steven must of had deeper issues that no one knew about before they got him. It is just sad because they had no idea what they were getting themselves into. "

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To Me wrote on Nov 2, 2009 7:56 PM:

" Ok, You are getting this confused, HE never got their trust back from something someone else did in their home, and yes, the thing that happened 3 years ago has EVERYTHING to do with it. That`s where it all started. No, No one has the right to kill. No one has the right to abuse. No one has the right to blame others when they are at fault. I agree 100%. I also said, I would HOPE that everything everyone is saying about this adopted mom, is not true. About the abuse that went on in their home. I hope. As I said, THEY are the only ones that know what was done behind closed doors. And who knows, Maybe that`s what will turn out? Like I said, in the end, the truth USUALLY comes out. "

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To Me wrote on Nov 2, 2009 8:09 PM:

" And so what he never got their trust back. Your point is..... It is not an excuse to kill your whole family. I think you are confused. I think you do not know what stared it and neither do I but like I said before if takes some level of planning to try and kill your whole family with a knife. He had to look at them and stab them. They must of been on to something by not trusting him!!! "

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Brad wrote on Nov 2, 2009 8:26 PM:

" To ME

Do not try and do your friend a favor by testifying. What you are saying could be read to say he was planning this for three years. I do not think that is what you mean but, testimony gets twisted. "

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To Me wrote on Nov 2, 2009 8:35 PM:

" To Brad

What???? "

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Caring Family My wrote on Nov 2, 2009 9:38 PM:

" lost his right when he tried to kill them all?

and why would he do that?

Caring family my ---

they care about themselves and that's all they care about. "

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Adoptive Family Lost PPO Order wrote on Nov 2, 2009 9:53 PM:

" Jessica tried to get a PPO against the biological family for stalking. IT WAS DENIED.

The Saylor home needs to be investigated, these kids are not safe. To many bad things have happend in Jessica's home. Get those kids away from her. "

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To me wrote on Nov 2, 2009 9:59 PM:

" To caring family
It sounds like you have some anger issues. I have no idea why he tried to kill them. And if all they cared about was themselves why would they open their home in the first place. Also though didn't the mom spend the whole time at the hospital with her family but hay that would be her not caring right? And yes he did lose his "right" to his family when tried to kill them. He killed let me say killed his brother and tried to kill his other brothers and also his dad. We still do not know if he tried to kill has mom or his sisters. One thing still has not be answered do you really think he wants to see his parents? I would say no! "

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what wrote on Nov 2, 2009 10:07 PM:

" To Adoptive Family Lost PPO
I find it very sickning that you would even rejoice over something like that. I find it very sad that they even had to attempt to get a PPO. In addition
if you have not figured it out yet they have been investigated and there was no ABUSE hello. Maybe your home needs to be investigated. Maybe someone should go around and stalk your family, take pictures, tell ungodly amount of lies. I have been very impressed with them. They have worked hard to protect their family from the media and from vicious people like yourself. Do us all a favor leave these innocent good people alone! "

The Division of Youth and Family Services has decided to step back into the shadows. It must not be allowed to do so.

In an outrageous change of policy, DYFS announced last week it will no longer publicly disclose the details of its actions when a child under its supervision dies from abuse or neglect. The arrogance involved in that policy boggles the mind.

DYFS officials say that revealing the circumstances behind the death of a child who was in the agency’s care isn’t useful. They contend it is better to release reports of “trends” in the agency’s failures than to focus on individual cases. They also argue that publicizing details could hurt the victims’ families and that a federal monitor assigned to oversee the agency eliminates the need to inform the public.

When it comes to accountability and transparency in the public arena, truth should trump utility. Naturally, DYFS would not find it “useful” to have its possibly fatal mistakes and missed calls exposed to the light of day. So what? The public, whose tax dollars pay for DYFS to make life-and-death decisions, has every right to demand to know what has happened.

The public airing of the misjudgments that cost a child’s life could be painful for some of the families of the victims. But it’s hard to imagine anything could make them more grief-stricken than the loss of their child and the knowledge that the system failed them. They also might be among the loudest voices in support of disclosure, as one way of helping to ensure that it doesn’t happen to some other son or daughter.

When the competence of an agency or its employees is in question, it should not be left to that agency to decide how much information to release to the public. The governor and the Legislature must override this disastrous policy switch.

DYFS has a difficult, sometimes impossible, job. And they often do a fine job. But when they get it wrong, we need to hear about it.

ASBURY PARK PRESS EDITORIAL — July 28, 2009

—– Original Message —–
From:Justin Mcbride
Date:9 Sep 2009 11:04 Am

and please let steven know we have nothing against him because we feel in our heart he didnt do it ,and my son paul tild me that she was molesting justin before she had him put away over her daughter .he walked in on it several time and she would rush justin out of her room once she noiced paul standing there and told justin to get out of her room .he said he knows alot of stuff that has happen in that house against kody ,himself ,justin ,and kevin .he would take a lie detector test well he testifisty against her joshua and steve the adopted dad .i will sent you more as i get them thank you faith baden 6266 potomac rd .oscoda mi,48750 phone number 1-989-569-3141 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 1-989-569-3141 end_of_the_skype_highlighting
debbie mccain
Mon, September 14, 2009 2:09:40 PMFrom: faith baden View Contact
To: djduke0817@sbcglobeal.net

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i havent heard anything, but im leaveing to go to mich. on wed. so i will be seeing my in laws. if i hear anything i will let you know

what? i havent heard anything except the one boy is still having a hard time recovering, wow well if steven didnt do it then who did? thats pretty crazy, what did the other boys say

I have to go now I’m sorry and promise more tonight

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Fri, September 11, 2009 9:15:49 PMFrom: faith baden View Contact
To: djduke0817@sbcglobel.net

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i am a relative of josh saylor, my husband is josh's cousin, i do not know jessica or the children involved here so i cannot comment on them, i just personally want to say to you and all family and extended family that i am very sorry for your loss in all situations here, losing your children to the state and the death of your son justin. the system is not a good place.... my prayers and thoughts go out to you, as a mother i can understand the pain you must be feeling right now and i am so sorry for that, weather you were wrong or right in this situation it still doesnt take away the fact that you carried and gave birth, and loved those children involved, and nor can anyone or anything take that for your heart.... i pray that Gods grace, mercy, love, comfort and peace be with each and every one of you. i pray that God will give you the strength to carry out each and everyday from now until the end of time...that he will give you understanding and wisdom
and the faith to know you will be reunited one day. i will continue to pray for you and your family...as far as an update on the ones recovering the only information i have as of now is that one child was released from the hospital, one is still in the hospital, either in midland or mt.pleasent, along with josh who is in sag. they have been upgraded to fair condition and have a long process of recovery due to their injuries....thank you for accepting me as a friend, justin is a very good looking boy and i am so sorry that his life was cut short because of someones foolishness...from one mothers heart to anothers..may Gods peace be with you all :)

debbie mccain...

i just now recieved an up date that josh and the other son will be released in the next few days....please dont place my pic. on the top friends list, thank you :)

what? i havent heard anything except the one boy is still having a hard time recovering, wow well if steven didnt do it then who did? thats pretty crazy, what did the other boys say

i dont know any of the kids or jessica, i only met josh once even though he is my husbands cousin...i know when i was reading the comments in the papers, there were alot of people commenting on helping you....there was a lot of slamming going on from all sides, and im sorry that you had to deal with all that in this time of your life.. i will try and see what my mother in law has to say tomorrow, i know that the family is being silent about the whole situation.....

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Fri, September 11, 2009 9:03:48 PMFrom: faith baden View Contact
To: djduke0817@sbcglobel.net

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And i dont think they feed them well cuz they always come too school and eat a lot breakfast and when they came to lunch they would fill their tray with food. Mainly with the side food. Which is free. And speaking of school kevin and kody and steven would come to school with the same cloths on for like two days. And also when steven suposibly did this my friend was riding his bike by there and the mom was not crying or any thing just standing there!
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Ya she didnt let them go anuwhere only to school and with them. They didnt get to watch tv ever and they only read books and studed for school and stuff. They never had funny except at school.

I hope they take the kids away from them. Mom gave the funeral home money. She posted that one about you being able to go to the funeral. But she doesnt want any trouble so please dont tell

ya steven had lots of bruises on his back when we play shirts and skin in gym class

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Fri, September 11, 2009 8:39:33 PMFrom: faith baden View Contact
To: djduke0817@sbcglobel.net

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Hi there. We just picked up Emily from Siebert. The boys were not with Jessica today. She is no greiving mother that is for sure. She was yapping as always. I heard they moved to Mooreland street in Midland. That would mean she should move the girls to cook school but of course she would not do that. I wish she would. I had my phone on Video all ready to record them. I pick Emily up everyday so I will always try.
Well when Jessica came to our school she came in our class and just took over. The teacher could not even control her. She grabbed a little boy (Mathew Pawley) by the arm and drug him into the hall and yelled at him. Then she made another boy cry and that was the wrong kid to upset. His mom is a principal at Jefferson. She would tell me my daughter needed to do this and that to improve her reading. The teacher did not tell me this Jessica did. She would do this to all of us. As if she was the teacher. She took over. She would stay in the class all day. She got into it with the librarian and would call her names to the kids. When a group of us got togeather and decided we could not handel seeing how mean she was to the boys and we did not want to hear her stories anymore We started not talking to her and I happened to be the brave one that told her she had issues and I did not want her around me or my child. Well she just feed off that. If I was talking
to someone she would step in and interupt, she loves to be in peoples face. We met with the principal and he agreed to try and put a stop to her but there is only so much he can do. Last year when my older daughters would pick up Emily Jessica would always harass them so after school I stopped her and a matter of fact Justin was with her and I told her This was a warning and there would not be another but she better stay away from my kids. She mouthed something and walked off. We told Mr. V if our daughter was not put in another class and if we have one problem with her we will move our daughter and we will make sure the school board know why. My good friend that works at Jefferson said they had nothing but trouble with her. She is Evil. She stopped her husband from being close with his family. Joshes dad used to write paul in jail and she told him if he did not stop he would never hear from them. Trust me I am not her only enemy. Her sister in law
Hates her. She is one of the most disliked people I know. I am going to a baseball game tonight but I will Keep in touch.
Blessings Brooke.
Again sorry I rammble. I just hate her and what she does to people.

In second grade Jessica came to siebert and Jefferson like a tornado. She caused so much trouble in such a short time. I have four girls Two went to Dow High with Justin and one went to Jefferson with Steven and Kevin and Triston. And my youngest goes to Siebert with May and Katrina. My daughter Elizabeth was Kevins first Girlfriend. It was kinda cute. they were both new to Jefferson that year. Kody I only saw when we invited them over after the ballon fest that year. The vice principal of the school and I started getting very strange feelings about Jessica and when we distanced ourself she got nasty. Parents pet and called our principal asking him to keep her under control or get her out of our school. I do not talk to anyone that has not heard just trash out of her mouth. It is not just because she was so nasty to me and still is. It is because right is right and wrong is wrong and she is not right for those boys.I am telling you she is mean. I will
always keep you posted. Kevin looked like he had a mark on his face. They stood so still and quiet. as she always expects them to while she stands flapping her mouth. I will tell you one thing I remember a female prosecutor that hated Jessica during the case with the girls. I remember this lady telling her she needed to get help. She is not a liked lady. I heard they had moved to Mooreland Street here in Midland. Sorry to get so worked up but Siebert is our school we are like family to teachers there and were very involved and now hate to walk in and considered going to another school because of her. I am sorry She has hurt my family. and devistated yours. Your boys are so nice. A wink from me to them will always done with love from you through me.

and please let steven know we have nothing against him because we feel in our heart he didnt do it ,and my son paul tild me that she was molesting justin before she had him put away over her daughter .he walked in on it several time and she would rush justin out of her room once she noiced paul standing there and told justin to get out of her room .he said he knows alot of stuff that has happen in that house against kody ,himself ,justin ,and kevin .he would take a lie detector test well he testifisty against her joshua and steve the adopted dad .i will sent you more as i get them thank you faith baden 6266 potomac rd .oscoda mi,48750 phone number 1-989-569-3141
debbie mccain
Mon, September 14, 2009 2:09:40 PMFrom: faith baden View Contact
To: djduke0817@sbcglobeal.net

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i guess i dont know, its hard to believe that josh did it, hes was raised a christian, i dont know jessica but from reading all the stuff that you just sent me, she must be a really evil person. i wonder why the schools dont report her....i am so praying that you will get the proof you need or someone to back you up....

what? i havent heard anything except the one boy is still having a hard time recovering, wow well if steven didnt do it then who did? thats pretty crazy, what did the other boys say

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